[Aakash-hackers] Bootstrapping for Aakash

Sun Feb 9 15:46:39 UTC 2014

On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Vasudev Kamath <kamathvasudev at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> Quoting from multiple mails to avoid storm of mail replies.
>
> Srikant <u.srikant.patnaik at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hello all, Sorry for late.
> >
> > Here are few updates.
> >
> > 1) We welcome our new member Pranav. He is a engineering student,
> > shares the same enthusiasm and passion. I have added him in alioth,
> > and he already joined this mailing list. Somehow he is unable to
> > create account on wiki.
>
> Welcome Pranav!.
>
> >
> > 2) I have created a minimal lxde-core image, with Wifi/touch and basic
> > utils. I have no idea how to host it on alioth or wiki, so will wait
> > for your suggestions. Meanwhile its sitting on my google drive (200MB,
> > xz compressed, not tested on other device)
>
> Interesting. I would like to share some thoughts after I had a
> discussion on #debian-mobile a week ago or so. You had asked about DE
> environment and it looks like enlightenment does have mobile device
> support so we can try that to get a more mobile device like feel. Due to
> lack of time I myself couldn't explore this yet.
>

We have tried e17 before, it is fast, but mobile and tablet interface had
some
unpleasant corners. Though we don't remember why we switched to LXDE, but
still I personally like to try e18 some time.

> >>    Interesting. But to be honest I have no interest in the actual
> >>    image you produced - what I find interesting is the choices you
> >>    made in producing it: Better if you share source - i.e. the
> >>    scripts (or other procedures) you used to produce the image.
>
> > The github link which I shared has the detailed procedure. There is no
> > script. I don't feel there is a need too, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> I did check the page and I've few comments here. I think you used Ubuntu
> to bootstrap this image, there is nothing wrong I'm noticing it because
> there is no package called *gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf* yet in Debian. The
> cross compiler which can be installed in Debian is only from the
> emdebian repo IIRC, I use thibgs repo at [1] and package available there
> is *gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf*. May be a line suggesting adding this
> repo to the sources.lst if people using Debian want to bootstrap this
> image is helpful.
>
>
Yes, I used Ubuntu. I assumed that these packages will have same name in
Debian too. My bad. Sure I have added the repo information. Would you also
recommend to use Linaro or Scratchbox  ?

> Also let me clarify why Jonas asked about the script, the point is we
> should have some way of always able to build things in a automated way
> than repeating it every time we want to spin image for testing. Also
> Jonas likes preparing image himself ;-).
>
> Jonas did an effort to generalize this pure blending effort using
> boxer[2] which is written using gnumake and due to bugs and due to
> rigidity of make we started rewriting it using Perl[3]. Atleast [2] can
> still be used directly with some effort and [3] isn't yet ready.
>
> I'm mentioning about boxer here because I wanted to give idea of what
> Jonas was talking about
>
> (Jonas if I assumed something wrong here correct me ;-))
>
> [1] http://emdebian.org/~thibg/repo/
> [2] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/boxer.git;a=summary
> [3] http://source.boxer.biks.dk/?p=boxer.git
>
> Sure. Will make a shell script.

>
> > The reason is, U-boot and filesystem we make only once. We change the
> > Kernel, that too, only once.
>
> Here I want to point out few stuffs, I was exploring the feasibiity of
> pure blending Debian for Aakash and found few blockers, one such blocker
> I've updated on wiki is availability of Alwinner A13 board support in
> Debian. Since Alwinner A13 support is not yet mainlined completely by
> Sunxi project to Linux upstream we can't expect Debian to officially
> provide a deb file.
>
> i.e. sudo aptitude install linux-image-alwinner
>
> (PS: I don't have required expertise to carry out mainlining efforts :-)
> but if some one can then I'll be glad to help)
>
> > Is there any tutorial/blog/video on alioth. Also, is there any
> > beginner's guide/instructions for debian wiki.
>
> Are you looking for Alioth help? if so [4] and Debian wiki is moinmoin
> software some information which might be helpful is [5]
>
> [4] https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/
> [5] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki
>
>
Thanks

>
> > 3) Is it possible to edit wiki using restructredText or markdown?
> > Meanwhile, I have created a branch in our github page
> > https://github.com/androportal/linux-on-aakash/tree/debian with steps
> > to follow. This page should be converted to debian wiki. So that we
> > can all edit there.
>
> You can simply create a page at
> wiki.debian.org/DebianAakash/Installation or something more relevant by
> going to that URL. Since that page doesn't exist you will get an option
> to create it.
>
>
Will do that.

>
> > 4) Simplified specs of Aakash2 tablet :
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aakash_(tablet)
> > Aakash2 hardware is loosely based A13-OLinuXino board. Schematics and
> > component details can
> > be found https://github.com/androportal/OLINUXINO
> >
> > 5) Manoj is working on gslx680 touchscreen fix, and Sachin is
> > exploring LIMA. Both of them are working part-time on these.
> >
> > We will contact Olimex for sure and find out.
>
> As Jonas said we will be interested in their findings, so if they can
> write down it on Debian wiki (preferred) or blog that will be helpful.
>
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