[Advacs-discuss] Re: Advacs accounting system
Helmut Wollmersdorfer
helmut@wollmersdorfer.at
Mon, 09 Aug 2004 16:18:19 +0200
Oliver Elphick schrieb:
> I've put up some stuff into Docs showing my ideas about where this is
> going to go.
Some comments on it:
docs/
How do you want to include translated versions?
Like this: docs/de/ ?
docs/description.txt
| At year-end, GL accounts should be balanced off and
| transferred to Profit and Loss or have their balances carried down.
Don't know, if this method is the same as usual here in DE and AT.
From theory (technical solutions can vary) all accounts are zero at the
beginning of a fiscal period, and the accounts start with an "opening
balance transaction" (translated word by word DE->EN) against an
"opening balance account".
E.g. the balance sheet per 2003-12-31 says "Bank account .... EUR
200.11", then you do on 2004-01-01
debt: Bank cred: opening balance account amount: EUR 200.11
After all "opening balance transactions" the "opening balance account"
must be zero.
Similar method is used at the end of the fiscal period. First every
earnings/expenditures balanced off against an "Profit & Loss account",
and then every remaining non-zero (GL-)accounts against "closing balance
account".
In practice accruals, depreciation, inventory etc. need some time (can
be months) to have correct values in the closing balance. Daily
accounting can not wait for this. Thus the balances of the accounts are
forwarded to the new period on the date of period switch. All this
transactions take place on a logical date, not the real date.
| Account codes should be purely arbitrary. The organisation of
| accounts should depend on separate attributes of the account
| definitions, not on their codes
ACK on this, if you mean the same:
I assume, that "account code" means the unique identifier of an account,
e.g.
code: 2000
short-name: Bank
full-name: Royal Bank Acc.No. 123 456 789
Alphanumeric must be allowed for account code.
Separate attributes:
- balance sheet code
This specifies under which position of the balance sheet the
account is accumulated or displayed.
- report code(s)
Similar functionality as balance sheet code.
- aggregate to account
To collect some accounts into one summary account, e.g. all vendors.
What's about "sub accounts"? In the building & construction branch
invoicing and payment can be very complex, which needs separation of
projects within one personal account.
| The system should be fully integrated. Cashbook, sales and purchase
| invoicing, asset depreciation, employee expenses, tax deductions and
| direct journal entries should all interact; the journal should be able
| to address any ledger.
ACK. But interfaces should exist, e.g. if someone wants to use an other
billing system with special features.
| The system must handle international use, first in terms of its
| interface, which must be internationalised,
Best is, switching online between different languages (or locales).
Imagine the controller of an japanese multinational sitting with an
hungarian accountant on front of a screen.
| The system should accommodate different user interfaces.
- something curses like will be sufficient for full time accountants
- web-frontend for greatest flexibility
- batch interface for testing and mass import
- maybe (less priority) GUIs
| Cashbook
A typical example where EN provides better words than DE;-)
In DE we need two terms for this: "bank book" and "cash book", which
provide nearly the same logic. Or is EN: Cashbook a cash book in the
narrow sense?
| The system will provide tax modules for different countries.
Don't know, if modules are necessary.
The usual logic is, that a tax-table (tax-code, tax-percentage,
short-name, full-name, related tax-account) can be edited.
Earning and expenses accounts have a field with the tax-code in it.
An invoice transaction inherits this tax-code from the related account,
applies the percentage, calculates the tax-amount, and creates a tax
(sub-)transaction. Before confirmation of the transaction the user can
overwrite the tax-code (or percentage) for re-calculation. This is
sufficient enough for the usual VAT-rules and other taxes, which are
related to turnover transactions.
But VAT calculation is getting more complex nowadays, especially in some
branches like building & construction.
/docs/glossary.txt
I'am missing the EN equivalent of a German term:
"Offener Posten", word by word translated to "open item".
"open payments" would better express the meaning.
Usually this is implemented like this, e.g.
on an A/R invoice transaction the "payment conditions" are deduced from
a system wide "payment conditions table", customer specific or order
specific. E.g. this can be "payment within 14 days get 3% cash discount,
regular payment within 30 days, payment in arrears apply to 12% interest
for delay".
At invoice transaction an "open item" record is created. These records
are used for automatic reminders and later on for more inpolite letters.
At payment transaction the GL-transaction is associated to the "open
item", and the "open item" is balanced to zero, or a balance is
remaining, or differences are out-balanced to appropiate accounts.
Helmut Wollmersdorfer