[cut-team] CUT thoughts

Lucas Nussbaum lucas at lucas-nussbaum.net
Tue Aug 17 08:47:42 UTC 2010


On 16/08/10 at 12:46 -0500, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:15, Lucas Nussbaum <lucas at lucas-nussbaum.net> wrote:
> > On 14/08/10 at 11:28 -0400, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> For me, the proposals that I think will make this better for me are
> >> regular/frequent snapshots of testing and security support for them.
> >> That way I can directly install the most recent snapshot, set it up to
> >> automatically install security updates, and plan for functionality
> >> changes when the next CUT snapshot happens.
> > How would this differentiate from other distributions doing 6-month
> > release cycles, and in particular Ubuntu, which can already be seen as
> > Debian snapshots (+ added value)?
> 
> It'd have support for more architectures than Ubuntu for one
> (including kfreebsd* even I guess?),

I don't think that many users care?

> would be easily upgradable to
> testing/unstable,

It's a bit strange to write "it is great because you can easily leave
it!"

> and users of testing snapshots would be helping to
> test the next stable release of Debian.

Not as much as users of testing/rolling, since they would be using the
version that is currently targeted for the next stable release, not some
older version.

> > Doing "snapshot testing for installation, with only minimal security
> > support, then tell users to use rolling", we provide something quite
> > unique in the Free Software world, with a constant flux of new upstream
> > releases.
> 
> testing and unstable already provide a constant flux of new upstream
> releases already, though... How will rolling be different from these?

Not much (and thus not generating much additional work). Except that it
would be very different during freezes, since it would continue to
receive updated packages.

> > This only adds minimal (but interesting) work for the project,
> 
> I'm not sure that's true; managing transitions and doing rebuilds
> isn't really that interesting, or that easy, and as far as I can tell
> that's going to be needed.

Most of the work would already be done for testing.

- Lucas



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