[Debian-eeepc-devel] [2.6.31-rc2] Writing to /sys/class/rfkill/*/state fails

Darren Salt linux at youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk
Fri Jul 10 18:57:50 UTC 2009

[full quoting for linux-{kernel,wireless} & the perpetrator]

I demand that Thiemo Nagel may or may not have written...

> Corentin Chary wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Thiemo Nagel<thiemo.nagel at ph.tum.de>
>> wrote:
>>> Corentin Chary wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Thiemo
>>>> Nagel<thiemo.nagel at ph.tum.de> wrote:
>>>>> I just tested the new GSM rfkill in 2.6.31-rc2 and I get the following
>>>>> on my EeePC 1000HGO:
>>>>>   eee:/# cat /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill2/name
>>>>>   eeepc-wwan3g
>>>>>   eee:/# echo 0 > /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill2/state
>>>>>   bash: echo: write error: Operation not permitted
>>>>> What could be the reason for that?
>>>> Reading the kernel source I can find:
>>>>         /*
>>>>          * The intention was that userspace can only take control over
>>>>          * a given device when/if rfkill-input doesn't control it due
>>>>          * to user_claim. Since user_claim is currently unsupported,
>>>>          * we never support changing the state from userspace -- this
>>>>          * can be implemented again later.
>>>>          */
>>>> It seems that rfkill should be controlled by /dev/rfkill (cf
>>>> Documentation/rfkill.txt).
>>>> Maybe network-manager can control that .. But I'm not sure.
>>>> Maybe you should CC the wireless mailing list.
>>> Thanks for the quick reply.  The interesting thing is, that the direct
>>> access works well for eeepc-wlan and eeepc-bluetooth rfkills.  I've CC'd
>>> debian-eeepc-devel, maybe they know something.
>> Are you sure that it works with newer kernels ?
>> This commit should have broken it for all rfkill.
>>   commit 19d337dff95cbf76edd3ad95c0cee2732c3e1ec5
>>   Author: Johannes Berg <johannes at sipsolutions.net>
>>   Date:   Tue Jun 2 13:01:37 2009 +0200

> You're right, all rfkills work with 2.6.30, but none works with 2.6.31-rc2.

This is the first that I've heard of this. I'd not noticed since I've not
needed Bluetooth on my 901 recently.

> For the debian-eeepc folks:  2.6.31-rc2 breaks bluetooth toggling using
> eeepc-acpi-scripts, but WLAN toggling still works.

FSVO "works" (http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13390), but that's a
different problem.

I consider this a regression. It breaks an interface which, though flawed, is
ideally suited for scripting use and which eeepc-acpi-scripts uses in shell

/dev/rfkill is not useful in shell scripts.

Trying to read from it to determine the current state (and only the current
state) results in the shell effectively hanging, and parsing is less than
trivial. So either we continue to use .../state or eeepc-acpi-scripts needs a
complete rewrite of the ACPI event-handling scripts in something other than
sh (probably perl) and would need a daemon instead of having scripts launched
from acpid (well, that or they'd need a helper binary or two).

Writing to it is doable, though slightly interesting. "echo 1 >/..." is

We can't just drop support for older kernels ‒ at least, not yet – though
fortunately, prior to this breakage, all that we had to cope with were
changed file names; the content can be treated identically. We don't have to
deal with hard-blocked states, which helps...

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