[Debian-hebrew-common] user-he package - a few issues for discussion.

[kobi zamir]

Hi,

By the way, the current hebrew-setting script has a --enabled flag
that set everything to English interface, including setting the gnome
menu bar to the left.

If you do not want Hebrew in your interface all you have to do is run
the *current* hebrew-setting script with --enabled flag.

P.S.
user-he (like other user-XX packages) is a meta package, it is not a
package that install things, it just depend on other packages. The
hebrew-setting script is there just because there in no other logical
place to put it.

Kobi.

On 12/17/05, Baruch Even <baruch at ev-en.org> wrote:
> Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On 12/16/05, Lior Kaplan <kaplanlior at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I'd like to discuss several issues about the user-he package (previous
> >>name was debian-hebrew).
> >>
> >>Current state:
> >>The package has a script that adds Hebrew support for the system, and
> >>makes the interface to be in Hebrew. The package itself depends on lots
> >>of other packages related to hebrew (KDE, Firefox and OO.org hebrew
> >>support packages) and other software like hsepll, geresh, katoob, mlterm...
> >>
> >>The issues:
> >>1. I'd prefer to default operation of the script would be to add Hebrew
> >>support, but not to change the interface (Hebrew enabled system). This
> >>mean that the script would reconfigure the locales to add he_IL.UTF-8
> >>(but won't set it as the default), and set the Hebrew keyboard in the X
> >>server.
> >
> >
> > I think I would expect such behaviour from such package.
>
> Who is the target user, you or a Linux novice who barely knows the
> command line?
>
> If the script needs an extra option --english-interface will it be hard
> for you? What if it needs --hebrew-interface for the novice?
>
>
> >>2. Since the interface is left in English (or any other non Hebrew
> >>language), I don't think the package should depends on packages that add
> >>Hebrew interface only (mozilla-firefox-locale-he-il,
> >>mozilla-firefox-theme-rtlclassic, kde-i18n-he, koffice-i18n-he).
> >>
> >>3. I don't think we should depends on all of the hebrew-related packages
> >>but only on the package we must have for Hebrew support. I think culmus
> >>and ttf-freefont are the only ones.
> >>
> >>4. All the other packages can be installed by script which simply do
> >>apt-get install. For example: hebrew-packages.sh with kde as argument
> >>would install kde-i18n-he, koffice-i18n-he, kkbswitch.
> >>
> >>What say you ?
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't expect such package to depend on all those, maybe to
> > recommend them. Adding a script to install different sets of packages
> > doesn't sound like the "Debian way" to me (is there an example in
> > official Debian repository that does something like that?). but how
> > about splitting the package to :
>
> There is no script that I know that does that simply because the
> dependency system is for this specific thing.
>
> I disagree about breaking up the package, we want it *simple*, we can
> make the script Recommend all the package and depend only on those it
> really needs (culmus), but I really do want it to bring in *everything*
> hebrew for those who don't know what package selection is.
>
> I want the user to do a simple Debian install and get a fully Hebrewized
> system, where EVERYTHING JUST WORKS, this includes OpenOffice with
> Hebrew spell checking on the fly, Firefox in Hebrew and the whole shebang!
>
> And then maybe put a nice script that toggles the system between Hebrew
> Enabled and Hebrew Native. Put a gui on top of it, wrap it in gnome-sudo
> and let the user switch it if he hates Hebrew interface (like I do).
>
> Baruch
>
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