[Debian-olpc-devel] [holger at layer-acht.org: Re: Bug#485233: Path still broken in 23-2]

[Jonas Smedegaard]

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Earlier today, Holger Levsen wrote (by way of Jonas Smedegaard):
>On Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> >> Now you force me to reprioritize my evening :-/
>> >No. a.) you're a volunteer, end of the story.
>
>I cannot force you or any other volunteer to do anything. If you have 
>(had) other priorities for that evening, (IMHO) you shouldnt let other 
>people make you reorganize your day. That activity was broken (though 
>less) before, and you didnt break it (further) so you have even less 
>obligation to fix it - esp. not immediatly.
>
>That said, I also know how peer pressure, etc. works - and with the 
>above somewhat blunt statement I wanted to remind you, that you are 
>here voluntarily and on your terms.

My point is that you _can_ force - through peer pressure. It is another 
matter if you reach your goal through such use of force, or it 
backfires.

It is damaging to this team if you act swiftly without peer review or 
discussion on matters you do not properly understand. It discourages 
enthusiasm of those putting actual hard work into this team (me 
concretely, but could be anyone), and it raises the risk of technical 
errors in packages distributed worldwide.


>> >b.) it's called unstable for a reason.
>>
>> "Unstable" refers to the distribution, not the package. Unstable
>> packages should only be uploaded to experimental, if at all!
>
>Yes. What I ment, was that an occasional breakage is ok. For that 
>evening it would have certainly be fine :-)

An "occasional breakage" is *not* ok on packages you mess with without 
understanding and without discussing with peers of your team that does!


>> >c.) i'd be happy to take over, but I'm refraining now as I assume 
>> >you are on it. (unless I here otherwise of course.)
>>
>> Great that you start becoming active now.
>>
>> No. You do *not* simply take over the work done for a year without 
>> your active participation.
>
>I fully agree with that and next two paragraphs quoted lines below. 
>What I ment was, more like "taking over this specific job (fix that 
>activitiy now) for the moment." I was not thinking (at all) of "taking 
>over as in taking away."
>
>> You are very welcome to work together with Luke and me (and any 
>> others chiming in) using on the existing packages, using the current 
>> Git+CDBS packaging style.
>>
>> You are also very welcome to package additional activity packages 
>> using current Git+CDBS packaging style.
>>
>> You can also package additional activities using whatever alternative 
>> packaging style you prefer yourself. I won't recommend that, but if 
>> you really must (use another packaging style), I won't (and can't) 
>> stop you.
>
>That I dont want. I think we should use a common packaging style for 
>all sugar packages.

You don't want any of the above? You only want to occassionally pop by 
and mess with packages you happen to have write access to, relying on 
peer review of all worldwide users of Debian unstable rather than the 
package team?


  - Jonas

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