[Debian-olpc-devel] measure activity on debian

David Farning dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Mon May 11 23:35:15 UTC 2009


On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
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> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:18:01PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
>>On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Holger Levsen <holger at layer-acht.org> wrote:
>>> On Montag, 11. Mai 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>>> SoaS is a distribution in its own right.  It is based on Fedora.
>>>
>>> well, that's true. but SoaS is also a concept, "Sugar on a Stick",
>>> which could be done with debian live (see live.debian.net) as well.
>>
>>Yes, Sugar on a stick is just a sugar 'spin' of Fedora wedged onto a
>>usb stick.
>>
>>It is a live cd with a couple of tweaks to allow the user to write to
>>their home directory on the USB stick.
>>
>>If anyone was so inclined, it would be pretty straight forward to do a
>>debian version.
>
> Would a straight forward alternate implementation of the SoaS concept be
> equally treated by Sugar Labs as "the main encoraged method for sugar
> use"?
>
> I suspect that the answer is "that depends on the quality of such
> implementation and of its similarity with that other implementation".
>
> In other words, I sincerely doubt that in reality it is "straight
> forward".
>
> As I have pointed out at Sugar Labs too, I strongly recommend that Sugar
> Labs treat SoaS as a distribution and treat it as such, with bug
> tracking etc. separate from Sugar itself.  That might help avoid
> misunderstandings like I consider this sidetracked discussion.

Yah, I struggle with this also:(  I believe that SoaS has the
unintended side affect being perceived as the official distribution.

The challenge is that Sugar Labs needs an _easy_ way for people to
test and use Sugar.  Currently, SoaS is the best method of doing that.

Mozilla.org is the master at making their product really easy to test
and install.

If someone were to make a Debian based method of testing Sugar, that
would get equal billing.

There was no intention that SoaS be Fedora based, it just happened
that a couple of people from the Fedora community stepped up and did
most of the work.

david

> I am not against a multitude of distributions. Not at all.  But I find
> it important to call it what it really is.



> Kind regards,
>
>  - Jonas
>
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