[Debian-olpc-devel] Fwd: [SPAM] Re: sugar-speak-activity and licensing of PyAIML

[Sebastian Silva]

The original author is more than willing to relicense to whatever we ask.
What do you suggest?

Thanks!
Sebastian

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Cort Stratton <cort at club.cc.cmu.edu>
Date: 2010/8/13
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] sugar-speak-activity and
licensing of PyAIML
To: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at somosazucar.org>


Hi Sebastian -- wow, I'm amazed that my humble little free-time
programming project is still alive and reaching such a broad audience!
As you perhaps suspected, I never expected it to become that popular
when I originally wrote PyAIML's quote-unquote "license"; it was just a
bit of fine-print text at the bottom of the web site to give readers a
chuckle.  Frankly, I'm not even sure it succeeds on that front; forgive
me, I was young :)  If the tongue-in-cheek license is preventing PyAIML
from reaching more users, then I would be *more* than happy to modify
the license terms to something more appropriate.  I've been out of the
open-source world for several years now; what's the preferred way to say
"use this code however you want, but please continue to credit the
original author where appropriate, and don't blame me if anything goes
wrong"?

 - cort

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 04:58:58PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>
>    Hello Cort,
>
>    This is Sebastian Silva from the Sugar project.
>
>    A couple of years ago Rafael Ortiz and I integrated PyAIML into
>
>    "Speak", the robot that ships with Sugar and the +1 million OLPC
>
>    computers. After this effort, subsequent versions of Speak have
>
>    carried your program and some brains for Spanish and English.
>
>    We are having a problem with your license and are wondering
>
>    if it would be possible to change it?
>
>    I understand your disdain for legalese but I also think you were not
>
>    trying to stop us from distributing it.
>
>    Thanks for considering this.
>
>    Sebastian
>    2010/8/13 Luke Faraone <[1]lfaraone at debian.org>
>
>      Hi all,
>      Previous versions of sugar-speak-activity embedded PyAIML[1], an
>      Artificial Intelligence Markup Language interpreter. PyAIML suffers
>      from
>      having a rather unfortunate license[2], which I'll quote below in
>      its
>      entirety:
>      > License Information
>      >
>      > I hate legalese. This software is free to use and distribute
>      however you'd like. I'm not aware of any catastrophic bugs, but
>      please don't come crying to me if this software fries your board.
>      Void where prohibited. No purchase necessary. You must be 18 or
>      older to make this call. For indoor or outdoor use ONLY. We live
>      for the One, we die for the One.
>      After discussion on #debian-devel, I've come to the conclusion that
>      as
>      of today, the license is non-free. alsroot has stripped PyAIML from
>      the
>      newest version of Speak, 17[3], and Sebastian Dziallas had
>      developed a
>      patch he's used in Fedora[4], attached for completeness.
>      Therefore, if we package the new upstream version of Speak from the
>      tarball, and apply the patch to disable PyAIML support, we should
>      have
>      something working that is legally distributable.
>      [1]: [2]http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/
>      [2]: [3]http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license
>      [3]:
>      [4]http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.g
>      z
>      [4]:
>      [5]http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar
>      -speak-no-aiml.patch
>      āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā
>      āLuke Faraone Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā āDebian /
>      Ubuntu Developerā®ā
>      ā[6]http://luke.faraone.cc Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā ā°Sugar Labs,
>      Systems AdmināÆā
>      āPGP: 5189 2A7D 16D0 49BB 046B Ā DC77 9732 5DD8 F9FD D506 Ā  Ā  Ā
>      Ā  Ā ā
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>      l
>
>    --
>    Sebastian Silva
>    [9]http://somosazucar.org/
>    "Te imaginas si te pudieran enseƱar sĆ³lo a leer pero no a
>    escribir??"
>
>    !DSPAM:4c65c5be175012114346637!
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:lfaraone at debian.org
>    2. http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/
>    3. http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license
>    4. http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.gz
>    5.
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch
>    6. http://luke.faraone.cc/
>    7. mailto:Debian-olpc-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org
>    8. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-devel
>    9. http://somosazucar.org/



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Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/
"Te imaginas si te pudieran enseñar sólo a leer pero no a escribir??"
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