Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

Andreas Tille andreas at
Thu Sep 12 08:20:31 UTC 2013

Hi Miriam,

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20:44PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> Maybe we should start setting up the lists of packages that might be
> relevant for kids, at the same time.

Well, the list is setup here  [1]

and it is also categorised here             [2]

> It's not obvious what those packages
> might be, I mean, there's like a dozen of them which are very clear,

Could somebody please check those who are clear and if they are missing
please give me a ping in what task it should be (or what task might be
wrong).  I'd happily volunteer to do the according

  echo "Depends: <pkgname>" >> <taskname> ; svn commit -m "add <pkg> to <task>"

if somebody would simply tell me.  If you prefer Git please tell me
right now and you will have the Debian Jr tasks in Git in 24h.

> but more in depth analysis is going to probably be needed for the rest.


> I'm not
> really sure about how to handle that, without relaying on some
> community-based tool such as debtags or wiki, and I obviously don't feel
> myself capable of doing it all alone.

You are not alone on the technical side but I'm simply lacking in
knowledge.  I do not think that debtags should be used to design a task
in terms of a set of packages and to my surprise Enrico told me exactly
this at DebConf.  So if you don't believe me - please ask "Mr. DebTags"
for what purpose he invented this stuff.

If you prefer a Wiki over Blends tools - feel free to even use a Wiki
and I might watch it to port the diff to the Blends tasks files.  However,
I wonder why you

  a) want to duplicate the work that is just done (see [1],[2])
  b) think that the one liner above is harder to do than a Wiki edit
     for you / my offer to work as "one liner proxy" for people
     not comfortable with SVN / Git

> > You should expect some delay / send some ping to the debtags list
> > because it is not very active since some years[1].
> >
> Yup, I guess that we will have to be patient about this.

So, why not starting right now with something that does not need this
level of patience?  I'm honestly trying to find out what people keeps
away from working with tasks files.  I'm sure all the people who are
*currently* involved are not afraid about simple d/control like text
files and working in SVN or Git.  So this can't be the explanation.  For
others I might consider a GSoC 2014:  Webdesigner for Blends tasks.

Kind regards



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