Someone just ITPd ClearSilver, it's a cross-platform templating system with Python, Perl, Java and Ruby bindings. I haven't used it before, but based on the info on their web site, it looks pretty interesting. http://www.clearsilver.net/ john -- John Morrissey _o /\ ---- __o jwm@horde.net _-< \_ / \ ---- < \, www.horde.net/ __(_)/_(_)________/ \_______(_) /_(_)__