[gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client

James Mills prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
Mon Aug 29 03:33:46 UTC 2016


Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on the Zoom feature
in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with zoomed in
display.

:)


James Mills / prologic

E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:

> That's great to hear. :)  I have a new update which I released into the
> source
> repo, but not all the binaries are updated yet as I need to go through all
> my
> development environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> Gopherspace.
>
> Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start
> doing
> work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font sizes and a
> proper threaded download manager. :)
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more "hanging".
> >
> > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> >
> >
> > James Mills / prologic
> >
> > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
> > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin at veroneau.net>
> wrote:
> > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > >
> > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the latest
> > > versions
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > *** What's new ***
> > >
> > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are saved into a local file in
> > >   Gopher
> > >
> > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can edit the
> > > bookmark file.
> > >
> > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and binary.
> > >   * Ability to save the image you are viewing to your local
> > >
> > > disk(Right-click
> > > menu).
> > >
> > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local disk,
> > >
> > > Text/Image/Binary
> > >
> > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in the tree view.
> > >   * Updated icons, taken from the Emerald GPL iconset.
> > >   * You can now resize the middle divider.
> > >   * Many bug fixes and improved stability.
> > >
> > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary files on a slow
> > >
> > > connection
> > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background isn't
> > > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > >
> > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I tried to
> snapshot
> > >
> > > the
> > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't do
> that.
> > >
> > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this update and the project
> > >
> > > overall.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
> > > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that Access Violation, I had
> > > > that problem during initial development which ended up slowing down
> > >
> > > development.
> > >
> > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > >
> > > > Font options would be something I will definately look into.
> > > >
> > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so now
> > > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes which use the search
> > > > type.  Initial support for the 'h' type has also been added, however
> I
> > > > am trying to
> > >
> > > debug
> > >
> > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use work
> > >
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I will make
> > > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening after I get more working.
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills wrote:
> > > > > Okay... So running from /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS
> works
> > > > >
> > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > >
> > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access Violation --
> pascal
> > > > > days coming back to me!)
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g: https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59
> > > > >
> > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use OS X's
> buitin
> > > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm legally blind) and whatever fonts
> or
> > > > > however content is being rendered in the gopher client is really
> bad
> > > > > :(
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > >
> > > > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right about where it
> > > > > > connects to by default (or tries to).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try to dig in to
> > > > > > why...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin Veroneau
> > > > > > <kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load gopher.veroneau.net by
> > >
> > > default.
> > >
> > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of the platforms I
> tested
> > >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only noticed a crash if there was
> > > > > >> no network
> > > > > >> available.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you run it from inside
> > > > > >> the Application bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > >> there.
> > >
> > > This
> > >
> > > > > >> is my
> > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so maybe something in
> the
> > > > > >> plist is incorrect.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM James Mills wrote:
> > > > > >> > So one major issue right now )blocker):
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > >> > b) It loads vernica.floodgap.com by default (fine)
> > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not responsive to GUI events,
> > > > > >> > spinning
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a bug?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > >> > James
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >> > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin Veroneau <
> > >
> > > kevin at veroneau.net>
> > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be possible to compile a version for Mac
> OS
> > > > > >> > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks like FPC 2.6.4 and
> Lazarus
> > > > > >> > > 1.2.6
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#
> Com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured enough, and you have
> about
> > >
> > > an
> > >
> > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode and Lazarus onto OS X
> 10.4
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is only one Lazarus package needed
> > > > > >> > > other than
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > > >> > > for the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't compatible with needed version
> of
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a different widget.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser
> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain) is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > > >> > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either, though I strongly suspect
> > > > > >> > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > > >> > >
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