From kevin at veroneau.net Thu Sep 1 02:40:26 2016 From: kevin at veroneau.net (Kevin Veroneau) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:40:26 -0600 Subject: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201608312040.26223.kevin@veroneau.net> Hello All! As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It seems my phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for that... I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email message... This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right, just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button! Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world. I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much much easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think. Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code, unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with the Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned for a PPC build. Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher client, and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video once it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern and useful cross-platform gopher client around. On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote: >
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you have a tester > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.
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From: Gopher-Project > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com at lists.alioth.debian.org> > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> Sent: Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM
> To: Gopher Project Discussion
> Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client >
 
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Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on the > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with > zoomed in display.

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:)
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> > wrote:
That's great to hear. :)  I have a new > update which I released into the source
repo, but not all the binaries > are updated yet as I need to go through all my
development > environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> Gopherspace.
>
> Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start > doing
work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font > sizes and a
proper threaded download manager. :)
>
>

> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more > "hanging".
>
> > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> >
> >
> > James Mills / prologic
> >
> > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> W: > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:
> > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > >
> > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the > latest
> > versions
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > *** What's new ***
> > >
> > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are saved > into a local file in
> >   Gopher
> > >
> > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can > edit the
> > bookmark file.
> > >
> > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and > binary.
> >   * Ability to save the image you are > viewing to your local
> >
> > > disk(Right-click
> > > menu).
> > >
> > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local > disk,
> >
> > > Text/Image/Binary
> > >
> > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in > the tree view.
> >   * Updated icons, taken from the > Emerald GPL iconset.
> >   * You can now resize the > middle divider.
> >   * Many bug fixes and improved > stability.
> >
> > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary > files on a slow
> >
> > > connection
> > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background > isn't
> > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > >
> > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I > tried to snapshot
> >
> > > the
> > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't > do that.
> >
> > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this update > and the project
> >
> > > overall.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau > wrote:
> > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that > Access Violation, I had
> > > that problem during initial > development which ended up slowing down
> >
> > > development.
> > >
> > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > >
> > > > Font options would be something I will definately look > into.
> > >
> > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so > now
> > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes which > use the search
> > > type.  Initial support for the 'h' > type has also been added, however I
> > > am trying to
> > >
> > > debug
> > >
> > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use > work
> >
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I > will make
> > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening > after I get more working.
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills > wrote:
> > > > Okay... So running from > /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > > > >
> > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > >
> > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access > Violation -- pascal
> > > > days coming back to me!)
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g: href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59"> > https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59
> > > > >
> > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use > OS X's buitin
> > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm > legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > > however > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad
> > > > > :(
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > >
> > > > > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > W: > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > < href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right > about where it
> > > > > connects to by default (or > tries to).
> > > > >
> > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try > to dig in to
> > > > > why...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > > W: href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin > Veroneau
> > > > > < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net by
> > >
> > > default.
> > >
> > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of > the platforms I tested
> >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only > noticed a crash if there was
> > > > >> no > network
> > > > > >> available.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you > run it from inside
> > > > >> the Application > bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > >> there.
> > >
> > > This
> > >
> > > > > >> is my
> > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so > maybe something in the
> > > > >> plist is > incorrect.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM > James Mills wrote:
> > > > >> > So one major > issue right now )blocker):
> > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > >> > b) It loads href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com by default > (fine)
> > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not > responsive to GUI events,
> > > > >> > > spinning
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a > bug?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > >> > James
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > >> > W: href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin > Veroneau <
> >
> > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be possible > to compile a version for Mac OS
> > > > >> > > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > > >> > > > 1.2.6
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com"> > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com >
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured > enough, and you have about
> >
> > > an
> > >
> > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is only > one Lazarus package needed
> > > > >> > > > other than
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is > TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > >> > > > for the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't > compatible with needed version of
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a > different widget.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain) > is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > >> > > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either, > though I strongly suspect
> > > > >> > > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list
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> > > > >> > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph"> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph >
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> er-project
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From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Thu Sep 1 17:21:08 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:21:08 -0700 Subject: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client In-Reply-To: <201608312040.26223.kevin@veroneau.net> References: <201608312040.26223.kevin@veroneau.net> Message-ID: Hey Kevin, What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :) I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though! cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau wrote: > Hello All! > > As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It > seems my > phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for > that... > > I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email > message... > > This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right, > just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search > either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their > page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button! > Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world. > > I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much > much > easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think. > > Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code, > unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with > the > Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned > for a > PPC build. > > Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher > client, > and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient > OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video > once > it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms > > As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern > and > useful cross-platform gopher client around. > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote: > > content="script-src > > 'self'; img-src * data:;">
> id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false"> > >
Hello all;
> id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; > > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; > > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; > > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
> id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; > > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; > > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; > > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  A new update this > > evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what > > you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers.  This will > > enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single > > click away!  Future updates will also enable the ability to add > > custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s > merely > > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to > > search bar".
> style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, > > 255);">
> style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As > > for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible.  Lazarus > > actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler.  I will > try > > this out in the new version.
> > > >

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Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher > GUI > > Client

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> style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:# > ffffff;font-family:' > > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">

you have a tester > > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.
> >

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> >
> >
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face="Calibri, > > sans-serif">From: Gopher-Project > > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com at lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> > Sent: Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM
> > To: Gopher Project Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client > >
 
> >
> >
> >
Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on > the > > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with > > zoomed in display.

> >
> >
:)
> >
> >

> > > >
> >
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at > > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> > > wrote:
That's great to hear. :)  I have a new > > update which I released into the source
repo, but not all the > binaries > > are updated yet as I need to go through all my
development > > environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> > Gopherspace.
> >
> > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start > > doing
work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font > > sizes and a
proper threaded download manager. :)
> >
> >

> > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more > > "hanging".
>
> > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> > >
> > >
> > > James Mills / prologic
> > >
> > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> W: > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:
> > > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > > >
> > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the > > latest
> > versions
> > > > as well.
> > > >
> > > > *** What's new ***
> > > >
> > > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are saved > > into a local file in
> >   Gopher
> > > >
> > > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can > > edit the
> > bookmark file.
> > > >
> > > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and > > binary.
> >   * Ability to save the image you are > > viewing to your local
> >
> > > > disk(Right-click
> > > > menu).
> > > >
> > > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to > local > > disk,
> >
> > > > Text/Image/Binary
> > > >
> > > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes > in > > the tree view.
> >   * Updated icons, taken from the > > Emerald GPL iconset.
> >   * You can now resize the > > middle divider.
> >   * Many bug fixes and improved > > stability.
> >
> > > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary > > files on a slow
> >
> > > > connection
> > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the > background > > isn't
> > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > > >
> > > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux > workstation, I > > tried to snapshot
> >
> > > > the
> > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot > doesn't > > do that.
> >
> > > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this update > > and the project
> >
> > > > overall.
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau > > wrote:
> > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that > > Access Violation, I had
> > > that problem during initial > > development which ended up slowing down
> >
> > > > development.
> > > >
> > > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look > > into.
> > >
> > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so > > now
> > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes > which > > use the search
> > > type.  Initial support for the 'h' > > type has also been added, however I
> > > am trying to
> > > >
> > > > debug
> > > >
> > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages > use > > work
> >
> > > > properly.
> > > >
> > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, > I > > will make
> > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening > > after I get more working.
> > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills > > wrote:
> > > > Okay... So running from > > /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access > > Violation -- pascal
> > > > days coming back to me!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > e.g: > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59"> > > https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c > 59
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically > use > > OS X's buitin
> > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm > > legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > > however > > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad
> > > > > > > :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > W: > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > > < > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are > right > > about where it
> > > > > connects to by default (or > > tries to).
> > > > >
> > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try > > to dig in to
> > > > > why...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > > W: > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin > > Veroneau
> > > > > < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net by
> > > >
> > > > default.
> > > >
> > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of > > the platforms I tested
> >
> > > > it
> > > >
> > > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only > > noticed a crash if there was
> > > > >> no > > network
> > > > > > >> available.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if > you > > run it from inside
> > > > >> the Application > > bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > > > >> there.
> > > >
> > > > This
> > > >
> > > > > > >> is my
> > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so > > maybe something in the
> > > > >> plist is > > incorrect.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM > > James Mills wrote:
> > > > >> > So one major > > issue right now )blocker):
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > > >> > b) It loads > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com by default > > (fine)
> > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not > > responsive to GUI events,
> > > > >> > > > spinning
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 > threads
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is > there a > > bug?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > > >> > James
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > >> > W: > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin > > Veroneau <
> >
> > > > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > >
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be > possible > > to compile a version for Mac OS
> > > > >> > > > > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it > looks > > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > > >> > > > > 1.2.6
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com"> > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_ > MacOS_X#Com > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has > matured > > enough, and you have about
> >
> > > > an
> > > >
> > > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing > Xcode > > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is > only > > one Lazarus package needed
> > > > >> > > > > other than
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is > > TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > >> > > > > for the
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't > > compatible with needed version of
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a > > different widget.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 > > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El > Captain) > > is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 > either, > > though I strongly suspect
> > > > >> > > > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > > > > >> > > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org"> > Gopher-Project at lists. > > alioth.debian.org
> > > > >> > > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph"> > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/ > listinfo/goph > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >> er-project
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > > > > >> > href="mailto:Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org"> > Gopher-Project at lists. > > alioth.debian.org
> > > > >> > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/"> > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/
> > > > >
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> > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin at veroneau.net Thu Sep 1 17:34:15 2016 From: kevin at veroneau.net (Kevin Veroneau) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 11:34:15 -0600 Subject: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi James, I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes for the content. I'll need to see how the tree view could be rendered with a larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usability. Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select font dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by including this. Thanks for testing it regardless. The next release will for sure include more accessibility options. Let me know what you think overall. Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so downloading and accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :( a download manager will soon be added too. Best Regards, Kevin Veroneau Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS Network ? Original Message ? From:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Sent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM To:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org Reply-to:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client Hey Kevin, What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :) I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though! cheers James James Mills / prologic E:?prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W:?prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau wrote: Hello All! ? As promised there is a new update which adds many new features.? It seems my phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for that... ? I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email message... ? This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right, just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products.? Now you can easily search either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button! Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world. ? I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much much easier to read and use.? :)? Let me know what you think. ? Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code, unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile.? I will be working with the Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned for a PPC build. ? Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher client, and am uploading it to YouTube now.? I will also upload the FLOSS complient OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well.? You can find the YouTube video once it completes here:? https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms ? As always, any feedback is great.? I want to make this the most modern and useful cross-platform gopher client around. On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote: >
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Hello all;
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id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  A new update this > evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what > you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers.  This will > enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single > click away!  Future updates will also enable the ability to add > custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s merely > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to > search bar".
style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, > 255);">
style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As > for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible.  Lazarus > actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler.  I will try > this out in the new version.
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Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI > Client

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you have a tester > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.
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From: Gopher-Project > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com at lists.alioth.debian.org> > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> Sent: Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM
> To: Gopher Project Discussion
> Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client >
 
>
>
>
Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on the > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with > zoomed in display.

>
>
:)
>
>

> >
>
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> > wrote:
That's great to hear. :)  I have a new > update which I released into the source
repo, but not all the binaries > are updated yet as I need to go through all my
development > environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> Gopherspace.
>
> Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start > doing
work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font > sizes and a
proper threaded download manager. :)
>
>

> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more > "hanging".
>
> > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> >
> >
> > James Mills / prologic
> >
> > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> W: > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:
> > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > >
> > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the > latest
> > versions
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > *** What's new ***
> > >
> > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are saved > into a local file in
> >   Gopher
> > >
> > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can > edit the
> > bookmark file.
> > >
> > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and > binary.
> >   * Ability to save the image you are > viewing to your local
> >
> > > disk(Right-click
> > > menu).
> > >
> > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local > disk,
> >
> > > Text/Image/Binary
> > >
> > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in > the tree view.
> >   * Updated icons, taken from the > Emerald GPL iconset.
> >   * You can now resize the > middle divider.
> >   * Many bug fixes and improved > stability.
> >
> > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary > files on a slow
> >
> > > connection
> > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background > isn't
> > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > >
> > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I > tried to snapshot
> >
> > > the
> > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't > do that.
> >
> > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this update > and the project
> >
> > > overall.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau > wrote:
> > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that > Access Violation, I had
> > > that problem during initial > development which ended up slowing down
> >
> > > development.
> > >
> > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > >
> > > > Font options would be something I will definately look > into.
> > >
> > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so > now
> > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes which > use the search
> > > type.  Initial support for the 'h' > type has also been added, however I
> > > am trying to
> > >
> > > debug
> > >
> > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use > work
> >
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I > will make
> > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening > after I get more working.
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills > wrote:
> > > > Okay... So running from > /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > > > >
> > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > >
> > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access > Violation -- pascal
> > > > days coming back to me!)
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g: href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59"> > https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59
> > > > >
> > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use > OS X's buitin
> > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm > legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > > however > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad
> > > > > :(
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > >
> > > > > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > W: > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > < href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right > about where it
> > > > > connects to by default (or > tries to).
> > > > >
> > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try > to dig in to
> > > > > why...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > > W: href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin > Veroneau
> > > > > < href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net by
> > >
> > > default.
> > >
> > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of > the platforms I tested
> >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only > noticed a crash if there was
> > > > >> no > network
> > > > > >> available.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you > run it from inside
> > > > >> the Application > bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > >> there.
> > >
> > > This
> > >
> > > > > >> is my
> > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so > maybe something in the
> > > > >> plist is > incorrect.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM > James Mills wrote:
> > > > >> > So one major > issue right now )blocker):
> > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > >> > b) It loads href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com by default > (fine)
> > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not > responsive to GUI events,
> > > > >> > > spinning
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a > bug?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > >> > James
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > E: href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au >
> > > > >> > W: href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin > Veroneau <
> >
> > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be possible > to compile a version for Mac OS
> > > > >> > > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > > >> > > > 1.2.6
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com"> > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com >
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured > enough, and you have about
> >
> > > an
> > >
> > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is only > one Lazarus package needed
> > > > >> > > > other than
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is > TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > >> > > > for the
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't > compatible with needed version of
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a > different widget.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain) > is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > >> > > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either, > though I strongly suspect
> > > > >> > > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > > > >> > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project at lists. > alioth.debian.org
> > > > >> > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph"> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph >
> > > > >>
> > > > > >> er-project
> > > > > >>
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_______________________________________________ Gopher-Project mailing list Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Fri Sep 2 00:34:49 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:34:49 -0700 Subject: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kevin, Not knowing much about Lazarus on OS X; what I don't get is why the font rendering is so terrible? Shouldn't it be using native widgets? Maybe yeah let's see what effect adding the native font selection dialogue gives us? Thanks for caring about the 'lil 'ol blind folks :) cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Veroneau wrote: > Hi James, > > I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes for > the content. I'll need to see how the tree view could be rendered with a > larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usability. > Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select font > dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by > including this. > > Thanks for testing it regardless. The next release will for sure > include more accessibility options. Let me know what you think overall. > Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so downloading and > accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :( a download manager will > soon be added too. > > Best Regards, > Kevin Veroneau > > Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the > TELUS Network > > Original Message > From:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > Sent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM > To:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org > Reply-to:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org > Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client > > Hey Kevin, > > What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the > fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a > vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> > System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of > the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :) > > I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though! > > cheers > James > > > James Mills / prologic > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau > wrote: > Hello All! > > As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It > seems my > phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for > that... > > I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email > message... > > This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right, > just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search > either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their > page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button! > Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world. > > I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much > much > easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think. > > Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code, > unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with > the > Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned > for a > PPC build. > > Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher > client, > and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient > OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video > once > it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms > > As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern > and > useful cross-platform gopher client around. > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote: > > content="script-src > > 'self'; img-src * data:;">
> id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false"> > >
Hello all;
> id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; > > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; > > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; > > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
> id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; > > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; > > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; > > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  A new update this > > evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what > > you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers.  This will > > enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single > > click away!  Future updates will also enable the ability to add > > custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s > merely > > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to > > search bar".
> style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, > > 255);">
> style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As > > for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible.  Lazarus > > actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler.  I will > try > > this out in the new version.
> > > >

> style="display:initial">
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> dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent > > from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS > > Network
> id="_original_msg_header"> > > > > > >
> >
> id="from">From:Barana24 at hotmail.com
> id="sent">Sent:August 29, 2016 4:48 AM
> id="to">To:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org
> id="reply_to">Reply-to:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org >
> >
Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher > GUI > > Client

> >
> style="line-height: initial; outline: none; background-image: initial;" > > contenteditable="false"> > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:# > ffffff;font-family:' > > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">

you have a tester > > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.
> >

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
face="Calibri, > > sans-serif">From: Gopher-Project > > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com at lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> > Sent: Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM
> > To: Gopher Project Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client > >
 
> >
> >
> >
Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on > the > > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with > > zoomed in display.

> >
> >
:)
> >
> >

> > > >
> >
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at > > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> > > wrote:
That's great to hear. :)  I have a new > > update which I released into the source
repo, but not all the > binaries > > are updated yet as I need to go through all my
development > > environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> > Gopherspace.
> >
> > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start > > doing
work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font > > sizes and a
proper threaded download manager. :)
> >
> >

> > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more > > "hanging".
>
> > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> > >
> > >
> > > James Mills / prologic
> > >
> > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> W: > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:
> > > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > > >
> > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the > > latest
> > versions
> > > > as well.
> > > >
> > > > *** What's new ***
> > > >
> > > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are saved > > into a local file in
> >   Gopher
> > > >
> > > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can > > edit the
> > bookmark file.
> > > >
> > > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and > > binary.
> >   * Ability to save the image you are > > viewing to your local
> >
> > > > disk(Right-click
> > > > menu).
> > > >
> > > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to > local > > disk,
> >
> > > > Text/Image/Binary
> > > >
> > > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes > in > > the tree view.
> >   * Updated icons, taken from the > > Emerald GPL iconset.
> >   * You can now resize the > > middle divider.
> >   * Many bug fixes and improved > > stability.
> >
> > > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary > > files on a slow
> >
> > > > connection
> > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the > background > > isn't
> > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > > >
> > > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux > workstation, I > > tried to snapshot
> >
> > > > the
> > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot > doesn't > > do that.
> >
> > > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this update > > and the project
> >
> > > > overall.
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau > > wrote:
> > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that > > Access Violation, I had
> > > that problem during initial > > development which ended up slowing down
> >
> > > > development.
> > > >
> > > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look > > into.
> > >
> > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so > > now
> > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes > which > > use the search
> > > type.  Initial support for the 'h' > > type has also been added, however I
> > > am trying to
> > > >
> > > > debug
> > > >
> > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages > use > > work
> >
> > > > properly.
> > > >
> > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, > I > > will make
> > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening > > after I get more working.
> > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills > > wrote:
> > > > Okay... So running from > > /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access > > Violation -- pascal
> > > > days coming back to me!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > e.g: > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59"> > > https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c > 59
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically > use > > OS X's buitin
> > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm > > legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > > however > > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad
> > > > > > > :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > W: > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > > < > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are > right > > about where it
> > > > > connects to by default (or > > tries to).
> > > > >
> > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try > > to dig in to
> > > > > why...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > > W: > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin > > Veroneau
> > > > > < > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net by
> > > >
> > > > default.
> > > >
> > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of > > the platforms I tested
> >
> > > > it
> > > >
> > > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only > > noticed a crash if there was
> > > > >> no > > network
> > > > > > >> available.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if > you > > run it from inside
> > > > >> the Application > > bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > > > >> there.
> > > >
> > > > This
> > > >
> > > > > > >> is my
> > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so > > maybe something in the
> > > > >> plist is > > incorrect.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM > > James Mills wrote:
> > > > >> > So one major > > issue right now )blocker):
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > > >> > b) It loads > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com by default > > (fine)
> > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not > > responsive to GUI events,
> > > > >> > > > spinning
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 > threads
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is > there a > > bug?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > > >> > James
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > E: > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > >
> > > > >> > W: > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin > > Veroneau <
> >
> > > > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > >
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be > possible > > to compile a version for Mac OS
> > > > >> > > > > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it > looks > > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > > >> > > > > 1.2.6
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com"> > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_ > MacOS_X#Com > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has > matured > > enough, and you have about
> >
> > > > an
> > > >
> > > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing > Xcode > > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is > only > > one Lazarus package needed
> > > > >> > > > > other than
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is > > TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > >> > > > > for the
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't > > compatible with needed version of
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a > > different widget.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 > > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El > Captain) > > is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 > either, > > though I strongly suspect
> > > > >> > > > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin at veroneau.net Fri Sep 2 16:12:52 2016 From: kevin at veroneau.net (Kevin Veroneau) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:12:52 -0600 Subject: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201609021012.52549.kevin@veroneau.net> Hello all! This morning marks yet another update to my Gopher client. This update includes a new font selector, which uses the OSes native font dialog. I confirmed that the font does change on Linux/OSX/Win10. This should help out with any accessibility, the tree also respects this font choice as well. You can find it under the "Options" menu. This update also includes a proper threaded download manager! Yay! Now you can download files and images from Gopherspace, and a download manager window will appear to display the progress. There is also initial support for rendering Gopher menu items in the HTML pane. Previously when the Gopher menu was rendered, menu items were not clickable. With this update, you can browser gopher just as you would in a non-tree gopher browser. This support is experimental, so there might be bugs, and not all gopher menu items will work through this mode. This is more or less so that when you view a gopher menu, you can tell what items are 'i' items, and which ones are gopher items. As usual, the updated binary files and source code can be found on my GopherSpace, and the source code repository on my BitBucket page has also been updated with the source code changes. There is still much work to be had, but thus far this Gopher client is shaping into something great and very fun to work on during my pass time. Best Regards, Kevin Veroneau On Thursday, September 01, 2016 06:34:49 PM James Mills wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Not knowing much about Lazarus on OS X; what I don't get is why the font > rendering is so terrible? Shouldn't it be using native widgets? Maybe yeah > let's see what effect adding the native font selection dialogue gives us? > > Thanks for caring about the 'lil 'ol blind folks :) > > cheers > James > > > James Mills / prologic > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Veroneau wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes for > > > > the content. I'll need to see how the tree view could be rendered with a > > larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usability. > > Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select font > > dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by > > including this. > > > > Thanks for testing it regardless. The next release will for sure > > > > include more accessibility options. Let me know what you think overall. > > Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so downloading and > > accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :( a download manager will > > soon be added too. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kevin Veroneau > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the > > TELUS Network > > > > Original Message > > > > From:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > Sent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM > > To:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org > > Reply-to:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org > > Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client > > > > Hey Kevin, > > > > What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the > > fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a > > vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> > > System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any > > of the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :) > > > > I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though! > > > > cheers > > James > > > > > > James Mills / prologic > > > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau > > wrote: > > Hello All! > > > > As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It > > > > seems my > > phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize > > for that... > > > > I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email > > > > message... > > > > This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper > > right, > > > > just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily > > search either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to > > bookmark their page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and > > hit the button! Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the > > gopher world. > > > > I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much > > > > much > > easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think. > > > > Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code, > > > > unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with > > the > > Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned > > for a > > PPC build. > > > > Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher > > > > client, > > and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS > > complient OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the > > YouTube video once > > it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms > > > > As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern > > > > and > > useful cross-platform gopher client around. > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote: > > > > > > content="script-src > > > > > 'self'; img-src * data:;">
> > id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false"> > > >
Hello all;
> > name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; > > > font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", > > > sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; > > > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, > > > 255);">
> > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, > > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, > > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: > > > rgb(255, 255, 255);">  A new update this evening(within the next > > > 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what you see on the > > > infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers.  This will enable quick > > > searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single click > > > away!  Future updates will also enable the ability to add custom > > > searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s > > > > merely > > > > > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to > > > search bar".
> > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, > > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, > > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: > > > rgb(255, 255, > > > 255);">
> > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, > > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, > > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: > > > rgb(255, 255, 255);">As for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's > > > entirely possible.  Lazarus actually comes on OS X with this > > > ability in the compiler.  I will > > > > try > > > > > this out in the new version.
> > > > > >

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> > dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate > > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: > > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, > > > 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - > > > via the TELUS Network
> > >
> > > > > > > > contenteditable="false">
> > > > > >
> > id="from">From:Barana24 at hotmail.com
> > id="sent">Sent:August 29, 2016 4:48 AM
> > id="to">To:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org
> > id="reply_to">Reply-to:gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org > > > >
> > > > >
Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher > > > > GUI > > > > > Client

> > name="BB10" dir="auto" style="line-height: initial; outline: none; > > > background-image: initial;" contenteditable="false"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:# > > > > ffffff;font-family:' > > > > > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">

you have a tester > > > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.
> > >

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > face="Calibri, > > > > > sans-serif">From: Gopher-Project > > > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com at lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > > > > > > > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> > > Sent: Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM
> > > To: Gopher Project Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI > > > Client
 
> > >
> > >
> > >
Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on > > > > the > > > > > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app > > > with zoomed in display.

> > >
> > >
:)
> > >
> > >

> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 > > > at 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> > > > wrote:
That's great to hear. :)  I have a new > > > update which I released into the source
repo, but not all the > > > > binaries > > > > > are updated yet as I need to go through all my
development > > > environments here to build the project and upload them into my
> > > Gopherspace.
> > >
> > > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start > > > doing
work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font > > > sizes and a
proper threaded download manager. :)
> > >
> > >

> > > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:
> > > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more > > > "hanging".
>
> > > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > >
> > > > E: > > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > > > > > > > >
> W: > > > > > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau < > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net> wrote:
> > > > > A REALLY BIG update!
> > > > >
> > > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the > > > latest
> > versions
> > > > > as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > *** What's new ***
> > > > >
> > > > >   * Full Bookmark support!  Bookmarks are > > > saved into a local file in
> >   Gopher
> > > > >
> > > > > Menu format.  So if you know the Gopher protocol, you > > > can edit the
> > bookmark file.
> > > > >
> > > > >   * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and > > > binary.
> >   * Ability to save the image you are > > > viewing to your local
> >
> > > > > disk(Right-click
> > > > > menu).
> > > > >
> > > > >   * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to > > > > local > > > > > disk,
> >
> > > > > Text/Image/Binary
> > > > >
> > > > >   * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes > > > > in > > > > > the tree view.
> >   * Updated icons, taken from > > > the Emerald GPL iconset.
> >   * You can now > > > resize the middle divider.
> >   * Many bug fixes > > > and improved stability.
> >
> > > > >   I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large > > > binary files on a slow
> >
> > > > > connection
> > > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the > > > > background > > > > > isn't
> > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Attached is a screenshot from my Linux > > > > workstation, I > > > > > tried to snapshot
> >
> > > > > the
> > > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot > > > > doesn't > > > > > do that.
> >
> > > > >   Anyways, let me know what you think of this > > > update and the project
> >
> > > > > overall.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau > > > wrote:
> > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that > > > Access Violation, I had
> > > that problem during initial > > > development which ended up slowing down
> >
> > > > > development.
> > > > >
> > > > > >  I will look further into that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look > > > into.
> > >
> > > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, > > > so now
> > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most > > > gopherholes > > > > which > > > > > use the search
> > > type.  Initial support for the > > > 'h' type has also been added, however I
> > > am trying > > > to
> >
> > > > > debug
> > > > >
> > > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages > > > > use > > > > > work
> >
> > > > > properly.
> > > > >
> > > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images > > > yet, > > > > I > > > > > will make
> > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow > > > evening after I get more working.
> > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills > > > wrote:
> > > > Okay... So running from > > > /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $ ./gopher
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access > > > Violation -- pascal
> > > > days coming back to > > > me!)
> > > >
> > > > > > > e.g: > > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59"> > > > https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c > > > > 59
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically > > > > use > > > > > OS X's buitin
> > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm > > > legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > > however > > > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > :(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > James
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > E: > > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > > > > > > > >
> > > > W: > > > > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > > > > > < > > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > > > > > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are > > > > right > > > > > about where it
> > > > > connects to by default (or > > > tries to).
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me > > > try to dig in to
> > > > > why...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > E: > > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > W: > > > > > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin > > > Veroneau
> > > > > < > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load > > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net by
> > > > >
> > > > > default.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any > > > of the platforms I tested
> >
> > > > > it
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> on, not
> > > > > > > >> sure what's going on there.  I only > > > noticed a crash if there was
> > > > >> no > > > network
> > > > > > > >> available.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if > > > > you > > > > > run it from inside
> > > > >> the Application > > > bundle.  It might display some sort of output
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> there.
> > > > >
> > > > > This
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> is my
> > > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so > > > maybe something in the
> > > > >> plist is > > > incorrect.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM > > > James Mills wrote:
> > > > >> > So one major > > > issue right now )blocker):
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > a) Open App
> > > > > > > >> > b) It loads > > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com by default > > > (fine)
> > > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not > > > responsive to GUI events,
> > > > >> > > > > spinning
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> wheel)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 > > > > threads
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is > > > > there a > > > > > bug?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > cheers
> > > > > > > >> > James
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > E: > > href="mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au">prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > W: > > > > > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"> > > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, > > > Kevin Veroneau <
> >
> > > > > > > href="mailto:kevin at veroneau.net">kevin at veroneau.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > Cameron,  it might be > > > > possible > > > > > to compile a version for Mac OS
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > X 10.4, looking
> > > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it > > > > looks > > > > > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > > >> > > > > > 1.2.6
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > build
> > > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com"> > > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_ > > > > MacOS_X#Com > > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> patibility
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has > > > > matured > > > > > enough, and you have about
> >
> > > > > an
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> hour to
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing > > > > Xcode > > > > > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > running the
> > > > > > > >> > > compile process.  There is > > > > only > > > > > one Lazarus package needed
> > > > >> > > > > > other than
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > base
> > > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is > > > TurboPowerIPro which is used
> > > > >> > > > > > for the
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> HTML
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > widget.  Even if this isn't > > > compatible with needed version of
> > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a > > > different widget.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 > > > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El > > > > Captain) > > > > > is unable to open the DMG.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 > > > > either, > > > > > though I strongly suspect
> > > > >> > > > > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > > > > > >> > > > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org"> > > > > Gopher-Project at lists. > > > > > alioth.debian.org
> > > > >> > > > > > > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph"> > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/ > > > > listinfo/goph > > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> er-project
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > > > > > >> > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org"> > > > > Gopher-Project at lists. > > > > > alioth.debian.org
> > > > >> > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/"> > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > gopher-project
> > > > >
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> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gopher-Project mailing list > > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gopher-Project mailing list > > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project From kim at holviala.com Thu Sep 8 14:10:44 2016 From: kim at holviala.com (Kim Holviala) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:10:44 +0300 Subject: [gopher] Gopernicus 2.0 for Workgroups released Message-ID: <34CDC927-4F2B-425E-AA21-39E5E283C5FB@holviala.com> Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it. :D The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd Debian package. - Kim From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Thu Sep 8 17:39:52 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 10:39:52 -0700 Subject: [gopher] Gopernicus 2.0 for Workgroups released In-Reply-To: <34CDC927-4F2B-425E-AA21-39E5E283C5FB@holviala.com> References: <34CDC927-4F2B-425E-AA21-39E5E283C5FB@holviala.com> Message-ID: What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement about this? :) James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala wrote: > Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it. > > :D > > The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've > been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd > Debian package. > > > - Kim > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kim at holviala.com Thu Sep 8 18:18:24 2016 From: kim at holviala.com (Kim Holviala) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:18:24 +0300 Subject: [gopher] Gopernicus 2.0 for Workgroups released In-Reply-To: References: <34CDC927-4F2B-425E-AA21-39E5E283C5FB@holviala.com> Message-ID: All proper software need release names, right? So this is Gophernicus 2.0 "for Workgroups". I should do 2.1 with proper hybrid .deb packages and then 2.2 with hybrid .rpm support (hybrid being inetd/xinetd/systemd/whatevertheyusethisweek-d). Maybe installp support for Cameron as well so he can finally have a proper modern Gopher daemon :D - Kim > On 08 Sep 2016, at 20:39, James Mills wrote: > > What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement about this? :) > > > James Mills / prologic > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala > wrote: > Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it. > > :D > > The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd Debian package. > > > - Kim > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project > > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Thu Sep 8 19:08:27 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 12:08:27 -0700 Subject: [gopher] Gopernicus 2.0 for Workgroups released In-Reply-To: References: <34CDC927-4F2B-425E-AA21-39E5E283C5FB@holviala.com> Message-ID: Ahh I see so nothing special as such :) I thought for a second there that "for Workgroups" means that Gophernicus had groupware like features and support :) cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Kim Holviala wrote: > All proper software need release names, right? So this is Gophernicus 2.0 > "for Workgroups". > > I should do 2.1 with proper hybrid .deb packages and then 2.2 with hybrid > .rpm support (hybrid being inetd/xinetd/systemd/whatevertheyusethisweek-d). > Maybe installp support for Cameron as well so he can finally have a proper > modern Gopher daemon :D > > > > - Kim > > > > > On 08 Sep 2016, at 20:39, James Mills > wrote: > > What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement about > this? :) > > > James Mills / prologic > > E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala wrote: > >> Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. 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URL: From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Wed Sep 14 03:58:39 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:58:39 -0700 Subject: [gopher] [ANN]: Introducing the go-gopher Gopher library for Golang Message-ID: Hi all, I'm pleased to announce the availability of github.com/prologic/go-gopher a Gopher library for the Go programming language implementing client and server functionality (as a library). There are three examples: - a simple file server - a simple client - a simple custom handler https://github.com/prologic/go-gopher So far the design of this library is heavily inspired by the standard net/http library with simple interfaces. My plans are to work on continuing development and support for go-gopher to a point where it is mature enough for a full-fledged cross-platform GUI Gopher client (Yes I'm also working on one; because why not!) as well as a re-implementation of cgod (Python) in Go. cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spectre at floodgap.com Wed Sep 14 06:09:19 2016 From: spectre at floodgap.com (Cameron Kaiser) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gopher] New stand-alone Gopher client (fwd) Message-ID: <201609140609.u8E69JmC34473380@floodgap.com> Forwarded for folks' interest. ----- Forwarded message from Felix ----- >From felix at plesoianu.ro Sun Aug 21 11:31:40 2016 Hi there! Apologies for the prolonged silence. Waning interest in Pocket Gopher coincided with a bad time in my life, so I dropped the ball for a few years. Now I'm back, not least thanks to that recent article on www.minnpost.com, but as feature phones have fallen by the wayside, there's little point in continuing with my old client. So I decided to make a new one. Gophersnake is written in Python and Tkinter, so it's inherently portable (should run out of the box on most Linux and Mac boxes). It's also stand-alone, modern-looking, and like its predecessor offers the user a decent set of starting points. All this should make Gopher more visible to newcomers than a browser plugin. It's still at a very early stage, but I'll keep poking at it. And just in case anyone shows more than a passing interest, I put it on GitHub for now: https://github.com/felixplesoianu/gophersnake -- its nature also makes it easier to hack and maintain. So, hope this helps. Best regards, Felix P.S. There's another similar client out there: https://github.com/avysk/suck-o-rama ----- End of forwarded message from Felix ----- -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Commodore on desk/Power light glowing brightly/The computer waits -- T. Lake From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au Wed Sep 14 06:46:18 2016 From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:46:18 -0700 Subject: [gopher] New stand-alone Gopher client (fwd) In-Reply-To: <201609140609.u8E69JmC34473380@floodgap.com> References: <201609140609.u8E69JmC34473380@floodgap.com> Message-ID: I came across both of these (as a fellow Pythonista myself!) and both work fairly well (at least on my recent Macbook). Good to see alternative clients springing up! cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > Forwarded for folks' interest. > > ----- Forwarded message from Felix ----- > > From felix at plesoianu.ro Sun Aug 21 11:31:40 2016 > > Hi there! > > Apologies for the prolonged silence. Waning interest in Pocket Gopher > coincided with a bad time in my life, so I dropped the ball for a few > years. Now I'm back, not least thanks to that recent article on > www.minnpost.com, but as feature phones have fallen by the wayside, > there's little point in continuing with my old client. So I decided to > make a new one. > > Gophersnake is written in Python and Tkinter, so it's inherently > portable (should run out of the box on most Linux and Mac boxes). It's > also stand-alone, modern-looking, and like its predecessor offers the > user a decent set of starting points. All this should make Gopher more > visible to newcomers than a browser plugin. It's still at a very early > stage, but I'll keep poking at it. And just in case anyone shows more > than a passing interest, I put it on GitHub for now: > https://github.com/felixplesoianu/gophersnake -- its nature also makes > it easier to hack and maintain. So, hope this helps. > > Best regards, > Felix > > P.S. 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