[gopher] Gopher Community Infrastructure...

[James Mills]

Thank you Chris! :D

I have a bit of a nit though -- Isn't Democracy and Consensus fundamentally
equivalent with the same end goals requiring some form of voting? :)

IHMO the ML is fine. I see no reason why we can't have multiple admins.

If the rest of the issues are about communication then lets address that?
Is is it more about discoverability?

cheers
James


James Mills / prologic

E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Christoph Lohmann <20h at r-36.net> wrote:

> Greetings.
>
> Thank you for keeping up the good points.
>
> The TL;DR for the others, of Bradley's posting is:
> * Democracy leaves people with a different opinion out, so we need
> consensus
>   by talking about the issues.
> * The moderation bit on the mailinglist is the problem.
> * We should simply ask alioth to remove the bit and set more than one
> person
>   as an admin, so we have a »crew« of people who could respond to problems.
> * Moving to another provider provokes too many questions.
> * Consistency is a key, so breaking up to somewhere else breaks legacy and
>   archives. (More work.)
> * A suggestion to have a domain for a project under which the mailinglist
> or
>   the gopher efforts can be seen. (See my comments below.)
>
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2017 09:47:30 +0200 "Bradley D. Thornton"
> <Bradley at NorthTech.US> wrote:
> > I would volunteer a domain registration in perpetuity, in the name of
> > some 'Gopher' named entity (The Gopher collective, International Gopher
> > Rescue, Mighty Gopher birds). We would have to come up with a brand
> > registration - something with a short string, that is relevant, and
> > unambiguous sounding when spoken. Something with the word GOPHER in it -
> > and the list would live there.
>
> For  fun  I have already registered gopher‐consortium.org and gophc.org,
> to make fun of some other consortium. gopherproject.org is already  here
> for this.
>
> > Then we would need a server. Cameron said it was not beyond the realm of
> > possibility for him, but that he wasn't looking forward to something
> > like that, and no reason he should. Christoph tossed his hat right into
> > the ring, and we obviously need and should have more than one admin,
> > while Kim leaves bases loaded with Ray up to bat - yes that is quite a
> > capable custodial crew.
>
> As said above, I think there is enough infrastructure. What is needed is
> a more uniform way to guide people to the mailinglist. On my gopherholes
> I  redirect  everyone to gopherproject.org, which is a really good name.
> At gopherproject.org new users should find: Information of  what  gopher
> is  about  (already there), how to get onto gopher (already there), fur‐
> ther gopher project links (already there, but some could be added) and a
> link  to the mailinglist (missing) and IRC channel (missing) to contrib‐
> ute.
>
> To  get the above right we simply have to friendly ask Cameron and it is
> solved in less than 10 minutes.
>
> For  the  mailinglist I will simply ask the alioth people to look at the
> discussion here and add the list you mentioned as the admins. This  will
> solve the original problem of why I started the discussion.
>
> Then  I  guess all problems are solved and we should go on creating good
> content on gopherspace. \o/
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christoph Lohmann
>
>
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