<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="script-src 'self'; img-src *;"><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=0"></head><body class="" style="line-height: initial; background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Well besides Java, which has the mato "Compile once, run anywhere". There's another language out there with this most interesting mato "Code once, run anywhere". Although C to an extant allows this, there is a bit of hassle when dealing with non-POSIX OSes... The project with this mato is FreePascal, which for all intensive purposes really strives for a real "Code once" language. The SDK, when compiled for the target OS handles most of the abstraction for you. They even provide hooks for many popular cross-platform GUI toolkits, they even have support for their own truly cross platform GUI toolkit that is even compatible with both Android and iOS. Unfortunately Pascal/Delphi have really fallen into wayside in recent years. It's so sad more developers don't know about the FreePascal project.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">They also provide support for building Mac OS 9 binaries, if you have the MPW available. By far, if you truly want cross plat, that even covers platforms like AmigaOS, Gameboy Advanced, and even the Nintendo DS with as much code reusability as possible, then without a doubt FreePascal can deliver.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Pascal also gives that nice retro feel that I recall from when I used to program in Turbo Pascal in my high school years. :)</div> <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div> <div id="blackberry_signature" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS Network</div> </div> <div id="_original_msg_header"> <table width="100%" style="border-spacing: 0px; display: table; background-color: white;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div id="from"><b>From:</b>kim@holviala.com</div><div id="sent"><b>Sent:</b>January 4, 2016 8:35 PM</div><div id="to"><b>To:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div><div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; display: block; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <br> </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div name="BB10" dir="auto"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><div class="">Having being a sysadmin for living I absolutely *hate* anything Java-related... but I agree that in this gopher market situation :D it's probably the best bet (SDL/C being the other possibility but with absolutely no native controls).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can help with converting the Java shi^W app to a proper Mac .app bundle (icon in Dock etc). Macs are happy if you just have a bigg'ish app icon like 128x128, rest of the bundle is just a dir and a couple of metadata files.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Kim</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 05 Jan 2016, at 05:17, barana . <<a href="mailto:barana24@hotmail.com" class="">barana24@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">ill do some testing on debian ppc!..if youre not into making bloatware.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 19:57:52 -0700<br class="">> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" class="">kevin@veroneau.net</a><br class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gopher4all@fastmail.com" class="">gopher4all@fastmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org" class="">gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br class="">> Subject: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Great to hear that a modern desktop Gopher client is in development. Looks great so far. I can be your Linux gopherpig for testing it out on the Linux desktop. I use Linux both at home(Debian) and at work(RHEL6). My work actively uses Java for our Web development, so the JDK is naturally already installed. I currently use OverbiteFF on my desktop systems to browse and search gopherspace.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Best Regards,<br class="">> Kevin Veroneau<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Original Message <br class="">> From:gopher4all@<a href="http://fastmail.com/" class="">fastmail.com</a><br class="">> Sent:January 4, 2016 7:50 PM<br class="">> To:gopher-<a href="mailto:project@lists.alioth.debian.org" class="">project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br class="">> Subject:[gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hi all,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I'm new here, this is my first post. Cameron (Floodgap) pointed me to<br class="">> here. I had no idea there was a mailing list like this, so I am not up<br class="">> to date on Gopher developments by the community.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I've been obsessed by the Gopher protocol for about a year now and<br class="">> wanted to learn developing JavaFX apps in Java, so that was a good<br class="">> combination. Therefore, I've stared working on a Gopher GUI client.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I've posted an early screenshot on Twitter:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://twitter.com/vintzend/status/683710791271497728" class="">https://twitter.com/vintzend/status/683710791271497728</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(yes I should<br class="">> have posted it on my gopherspace too, will do soon). Note that I didn't<br class="">> spend much time on the layout out yet, I first want the thing to be<br class="">> stable.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Right now the GUI-stuff works (tabs, back/next....) and I am adding<br class="">> support for more and more Gopher items (right now menu and text files<br class="">> are working), I plan to add as much gopher types as I can. Other<br class="">> features that I've planned are good bookmark management, keeping history<br class="">> and I'll do my best to make it highly configurable.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I know Java is not popular on the desktop anymore, but I believe it'll<br class="">> be possible to release executables for Windows and Mac (not sure of<br class="">> Linux), not really looked into that yet. I plan to release the source on<br class="">> GitHub, once I have ironed out some bugs.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Let me know if you have ideas for new features or want to share your<br class="">> opinion.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Kind regards from The Netherlands,<br class="">> Vincent<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Gopher-Project mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" class="">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project" class="">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Gopher-Project mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" class="">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project" class="">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br class=""></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Gopher-Project mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>