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<DIV><FONT size=2>About the Poll, the question should be "How did you learn
about Lisaac?" or "How did you find Lisaac?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I think the website looks great and that it's a major upgrade
from the previous website. The previous website was very distracting and left a
poor image of Lisaac.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>About requiring JavaScript... JavaScript is nice but many
people do not use it, not just Mildred. I am unsure why but being in web
development, it is certainly true. When JavaScript is used, it's best to provide
a fall back so that a non-Javascript browser can still navigate. I know this is
difficult and impedes progress, so I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>There are numerous other English errors on the website. For
instance, "begin to discover his world of stunning abilities"... Was that
suppose to be "this world" or "our world" ? ... "Do not waste a second" is OK,
but it would be better written as "Do not waste another second".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Jeremy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=farzad.sehat@gmail.com
href="mailto:farzad.sehat@gmail.com">Farzad Sehat</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lisaac-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
href="mailto:lisaac-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">Discussion about technical
development topics</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: "Ta page est nulle parce qu'elle est pas compatible
avec mon browser programmé en 1870"</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I am agree and I'm agree and I'm agree with you
Pierre-Alexandre<BR><BR clear=all>M. Farzad Sehat<BR><A
href="mailto:farzad.sehat@gmail.com">farzad.sehat@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>Le 2 décembre 2009 21:27, Pierre-Alexandre Voye <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ontologiae@gmail.com">ontologiae@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> a écrit
:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>I'm agree with Farzad : this site is not disturbing
according to 2009's web standard.<BR>Javascript is now and more and more a
natural part of a webpage, I don't undertand why some dinosaurs want to
continue to avoid it, or others thing like prefering lynx to a normal
browser.<BR><BR>I'm agree on <BR>- We don't need logo
scrolling<BR><BR>about your position, I propose you to read that : <A
href="http://www.tsgk.net/cowboyz/ddr.html"
target=_blank>http://www.tsgk.net/cowboyz/ddr.html</A><BR>And particularly the
section <B>"LES LINUXIENS"</B><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/12/2 Mildred Ki'Lya <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ml.mildred593@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ml.mildred593@gmail.com</A>></SPAN><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi,<BR><BR>(WARNING: don't be put off by these remarks.
I'm not saying the website<BR>is bad, just that it could be
improved)<BR><BR>I did not took part in the conversation about the wallpaper
but I think<BR>there is a point here, that I feel from some time about the
Lisaac<BR>website. To put it simply, I think there is too much Javascript in
that<BR>website, and it is too much animated.<BR><BR><BR><BR>First, I think
Javascript should NOT be required for the Lisaac website.<BR>Why
?<BR><BR>Because some people (like me) don't allow JavaScript globally and
only<BR>allow websites from a whitelist. The main advantage of doing so is
that<BR>you get away from most of the advertisement and nasty things found
on<BR>modern webpages.<BR><BR>I don't say not to use Javascript, just not
make it mandatory for the<BR>website.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Now, if I do enable
Javascript, I find the front page too much animated.<BR>All those effects
are nice but get in the way of the user in the end.<BR>And it also from my
point of view it gives a childish appearance to the<BR>website. It makes me
remember of all those website that included too<BR>much JavaScript (back
when JavaScript was a novelty).<BR><BR>What I think should be
removed:<BR><BR>- The logos scrolling. You really don't care about them most
of the time<BR>and it draw your eyes to this area.<BR><BR>- The animation on
the menus is pretty disturbing to me. i much more<BR>prefer to have the menu
popping open. And with the animation, it makes<BR>me wonder if my computer
is slow when I focus on "Downloads" since it<BR>doesn't have a menu. Again,
it draw your eyes to the expanding corner of<BR>the menu where there is
nothing interesting instead of the content of<BR>the menu. So, for a
millisecond, you are busy trying to focus on a<BR>moving menu.<BR><BR>-
About the fading news on the front page. This is not as much of a<BR>problem
as the two points I mentioned above. But without Javascript,<BR>it's like
mess. I think it would be much better to create a bullet point<BR>list
allowing the user to see what happened. Fading news are nice but<BR>you
don't know which is first, which is last. And you end up not reading<BR>them
at all. Also, when yyou click on an arrow to show the next/previous<BR>news,
you have to wait for the news to appear, and the impatient visitor<BR>won't
wait for that long. And, is that normal the news always end
with<BR>"..."?<BR><BR>- In comunity -> Team, I don't think we should have
a fancy view at all.<BR>Especially if it plays sound (that's annoying) and
especially if it's<BR>the only way to access more detailled information
about team members<BR>(photo, CV, ...). Again, this doesn't help with the
professional image<BR>of the website.<BR><BR><BR>Now, other things:<BR><BR>-
The poll, is that really useful? I don't say it's not, but...<BR>- Why cares
how many people are visiting the website? This is not a<BR>comunity website
(like a forum) where we might want to out friends online.<BR>- If you ask
me, the second wallpaper shouldn't be on the official<BR>website. I
understand why guys might like it, but please, not here. Your<BR>personal
website is fine for that.<BR>- Documentation -> Library. There should be
a note to tell people<BR>they're not going to stay on the website. They
don't except to be thrown<BR>directly in the library browser.<BR>- The top
of the webpage says "The power of simplicity at work for you".<BR>The
reflection is a bit too much I think and doesn't help reading the<BR>text.
Perhaps it could be softened.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Now, i do realize this email
might sound like a lot of critics, and<BR>please excuse me for that. This
website is a wonderful initiative (even<BR>if I do prefer on a personal
level static webpages generated<BR>automatically). I don't say it's not
good. I just say it can be<BR>improved, and hopefully my remarks are
constructive.<BR><BR><BR>If I should ask for a feature in that website, I
would ask for the<BR>ability to add pages using a markdown syntax (or
similar, I don't really<BR>care). Preferably, without having to use a web
interface (I just hate<BR>web interface). I do prefer plain old protocols
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