[Net-ssleay-devel] Testers for svn trunk, please.

[Mike McCauley]

Hello Florian,

On Tuesday 25 July 2006 20:20, Florian Ragwitz wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:41:19PM +1000, Mike McCauley wrote:
> > Hello Florian,
> >
> > On Tuesday 25 July 2006 18:29, Florian Ragwitz wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 10:14:03AM +1000, Mike McCauley wrote:
> > > > Hello Florian,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the delay in replying... I was travelling.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 20 July 2006 22:05, Florian Ragwitz wrote:
> > > > > Hello there,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've done some work on Net::SSLeay in the last days and would like
> > > > > to hear some feedback. The most important changes include:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Use Module::Install instead of ExtUtils::MakeMaker.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure I like this one: Module::Install does not seem to be a
> > > > standard module, so it becomes another barrier to installing. It has
> > > > some extensive prerequisites, too.
> > >
> > > Not quite. Module::Install will only needed to be installed on the
> > > developers machines. 

Or on people using SVN instead of the standard distro?

OK. Lets try it.
I have now 'make test' OK and tested with Radiator on Linux. Other platforms 
to follow. Its late here now, so may not get many more done.

Cheers.


> > > When doing make dist it will get bundled into the 
> > > inc/ directory and therefor isn't a build-time dependency. Also it
> > > allows you to bundle other dependencies like Test::Exception so the
> > > user doesn't need to install it himself.
> >
> > Well..... OK. Is it really better that way?
>
> I think so. Just compare the mess in Makefile.PL before and after. Also
> there is a large number of different versions of perl and module
> installers infrastructure, primarily CPAN.pm, CPANPLUS.pm,
> ExtUtils::MakeMaker and Module::Build. These have accumulated greatly
> varying feature and bug profiles over the years, and it is now very
> difficult to write an installer  that will work properly using only the
> installed versions of these modules.
>
> Rather than try to target one specific installer and/or make you add
> twisty workaround expressions to every piece of install code you
> write, Module::Install will copy part of itself into each module
> distribution it creates.
>
> This allows new improvements to be used in your installers regardless of
> the age of the system a distribution is being installed on, at the cost
> of a small increase in the size of your distribution.
>
>
> Copied from M::I's documentation.
>
> > > > > Also the new test suite uses warnings.pm and probably other stuff
> > > > > which isn't available in perl pre-5.6. Would you consider that an
> > > > > issue?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > >
> > > In what way? How would you deal with that? I haven't seen a pre-5.6
> > > perl for ages now and wonder, even if someone still runs it, if he
> > > would upgrade Net::SSLeay on that installation if he didn't upgrade his
> > > perl for years.
> >
> > I believe we still have customers on 5.6. We still try to support 5.005!
> > Some relatively modern Unix distros still come with pretty old Perls. I
> > think we could live with '5.6 or later' but not 'later than 5.6'
>
> As I said, it doesn't work on pre-5.6 perls. So perl >= 5.6 should work (I
> tested it with 5.6.2 only). I also think we can live with that.
> Nevertheless it would be a worthwhile goal to get 5.005 or 5.004
> compatibility back, but I'm not too sure how large the compromises we
> would need to make to support older perls would be.
>
>
> -Flo

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