[Neurodebian-devel] Neurodebian tasks (and Debian Science)

[Michael Hanke]

Hi,

advance sorry for a terse reply ... resource issues...

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Ole Streicher <olebole at debian.org> wrote:

> Dear Yaroslav, and all,
>
> I am currently looking on how we get the Debian Blends into the
> installer for the next release. This is connected to Bug #758116 [1]
>
> One of the points there is the inclusion of NeuroDebian, which does not
> follow the usual Pure Blends scheme. Since you gave a "+100" in the bug,
> I however suspect that there is some interest in having NeuroDebian
> visible in the installer.
>
> Looking into your repository content [2], the "by field" selection is
> quite close to a number of Debian Science tasks:
>
>  * Packages for Electrophysiology
>     --> science-electrophysiology
>  * Packages for Modeling of neural systems
>     --> science-neuroscience-modelling
>  * Packages for Neuroscience Datasets
>     --> science-neuroscience-datasets
>  * Packages for Psychophysics
>     --> science-psychophysics
>
> Some Fields in neurodebian seem not to have 1:1 tasks in debian-science:
>
>  * Packages for Distributed Computing
>     --> science-distributedcomputing (your selection is a bit smaller?)
>  * Packages for Magnetic Reasonance Imaging
>  * Packages for Neuroscience Education
>

Any discrepancy should be in favor of the non-neurodebian tasks, everything
else is an ommision/bug in our side.


> The debian-science task "science-neuroscience-congnitive" has no
> corresponding "field" in neurodebian, but seems to belong there.
>

Again, a core debian target is preferred, hence this is a non-issue from my
PoV.


> The Debian-Science blend is quite filled with tasks: there are currently
> 47 tasks in it. Wouldn't it make sense to move out the specific tasks
> (science-electrophysiology. science-neuroscience-modelling,
> science-neuroscience-datasets, science-psychophysics, and
> science-neuroscience-congnitive) into the "neurodebian" package (and
> remove it from debian-science)?
>

If somebody does that and it doesn't imply a future increase in perceived
responsibility of "NeuroDebian" to maintain this former debian-science task
-- I am all for it.


> We then would just need a metapackage that includes (recommends) all
> neurodebian tasks that should be installed on a default NeuroDebian
> blend. A "neurodebian-tasks" package would be useful as well so that
> people could use tasksel to install additonal NeuroDebian tasks (or to
> remove them if not needed).
>

I am not convinced that the "install all at once" approach is an actual
selling point for a real user (NeuroDebian users that is). But again, if
the goal of splitting up debian-science is worthwhile enough for somebody
to make it happen, please go ahead. I personally consider the task
association as a "tag", no more. And I do mostly care about the second part
of "science-neuroscience-cognitive" (neuroscience-cognitive), and much less
about the prefix -- unless it is obscene ;-)

But again, if this leads to the collateral damage that people are less
likely to touch the task file because of this change of the umbrella from
science (general) to neurodebian (less general), this would be a cost that
I'd hate to pay.

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Hanke
http://mih.voxindeserto.de
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