[PKG-OpenRC-Debian] Installing openrc
Yuri D'Elia
wavexx at thregr.org
Sat Sep 27 22:05:14 UTC 2014
Hi everyone.
I have a few questions about installing openrc on Debian
(unstable/experimental), which hopefully I can ask here.
I've been an early adopter of systemd on Debian, though I dislike a lot
of the technical decisions behind it. Lately I got fed up with the
absurd misfeatures packed in it, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR being the icing on the
cake.
I only recently discovered openrc as an alternative, and generally like
it's design in many ways.
I tried to look at it from a dependency POV, but it looks like systemd
has planted its root in Debian up to the point to being irremovable!
policykit-1 depends on libpam-systemd, which depends on systemd itself
(though systemd-sysv is not _directly_ required). I also dislike
policykit in general, but it seems that I cannot get rid of it due to
several other important packages (and that despite not running gnome/kde
in the first place!).
However, even if I can assume to get rid of "systemd" itself, it looks
like that several systemd libraries are now basically uninstallable,
which several other components tightly bound to systemd itself.
I'm really wondering about the state of sysvinit-core and openrc at this
point. Can I actually expect to be able to use anything except systemd
at this point in unstable?
Do any of you actually use openrc?
Can we actually ask policykit-1 to break the dependency on libpam-systemd?
Sorry for the breadth of the questions.
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