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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10.07.2017 09:36, Ondrej Novy wrote:<br>
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I'm still willing to (help) maintain Newton for the life
of Stretch. But<br>
currently, I don't think it's reasonable to claim I can
continue my past<br>
work on the newer OpenStack release. This would need
someone sponsoring<br>
me full time, otherwise it wouldn't be done well enough,
and I don't<br>
want to take the responsibility to do half of the work.
Debian deserves<br>
better than this.<br>
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<div>thanks for this.</div>
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also thanks from my side.<br>
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<div>My plan is:</div>
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<li>organize OpenStack sprint at DebCamp/Debconf 2017: <a
href="https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2017/OpenStack"
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<li>move non-openstack packages to other teams (example:
python-pint -> DPMT), explain in README how to
carefully upgrade this packages (for example check
global requirements in OpenStack)</li>
<li>create brand new repositories in alioth from current
version in Debian Archive with "gbp pq" + pristine-tar
layout, compare with current repository states in
Gerrit</li>
<li>use one branch per Debian release, don't try to have
"more supported version of OS in Debian stable"</li>
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<div>To all: Please comment this plan and add other
suggestions.</div>
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Keep an eye on upgrade from one stable to another stable debian
release. currently (and probably in the future too), openstack only
supports incremental upgrade from one<br>
OS release to the next (n+1).<br>
Looking at the current debian release cycle you probably have os n
in stable and os n+x (beeing x >1) in the next stable debian
release.<br>
Which makes upgrades impossible.<br>
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I do not have a solution for this problem but I think it's worth
thinking about.<br>
I see two possible ways to solve<br>
- accept, (and document) that openstack upgrades are not possible in
debian<br>
- have the intermediat openstack releases as sort of unsupported,
use for upgrade only, packages available (eg. as snapshots ?) (but
this means you need all branches)<br>
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Best regards<br>
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Benedikt <br>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
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<div>Best regards<br>
Ondřej Nový<br>
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Email: <a href="mailto:novy@ondrej.org"
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