[Pkg-ace-devel] x.7.6 is out

Pau Garcia i Quiles pgquiles at elpauer.org
Sun Feb 14 12:38:15 UTC 2010


> The only issue I have with the traditional build system is that moving
> away from autotools will not improve the autotools situation. So far no
> sponsor has shown to fund this effort, so in the end if no one
> volunteers the effort will remain incomplete.

I'm no fan of autotools :-)

> We've spent a lot of time working on this with J.T. and Pau,
> discovered and fixed blockers, and I believe it was worth it. But
> indeed it was time consuming, and frustrating.
>
> If we want a fresh ACE+TAO then I agree: we need the traditional,
> safer, compilation method.

Perfect

> How about this?
>  - All linux platforms switch back to the traditional method
>  - Others (GNU/kFreeBSD, GNU/Hurd) stay on autotools method, even if
>   they do not compile

IMHO that's like saying ACE packages for GNU/kFreeBSD and GNU/Hurd
will no longer be available.

As I said in my former mail, I think kFreeBSD would be doable. I could
certainly use some help from a kFreeBSD hacker here, though: I know
Linux, I know FreeBSD, but I don't really know the differences between
those and kFreeBSD, if any. AFAIK kFreeBSD is FreeBSD kernel (i. e.
system calls, etc) but with GNU libc6 and userland, right?

As for Hurd... well, when we have ACE packages for Linux and kFreeBSD,
we'll see. Maybe we will end up contributing a config-hurd.h and
platform file for Hurd to ACE :-)

So, no that we have effectively killed our painful experience with
autotools, who is going to step in and start with the traditional
build system? I won't be able to help until March. Maybe converting
5.6.3-6 from autotools to the traditional build system would be a good
starter (it's something we already know and have fully packaged, it
will make easier finding the impedances between autotools and
traditional). Next, we can move to 5.7.6 (or, more probably, 5.7.7 by
then).

By the way, we did not solve the problem with the huge documentation
packages. IIRC, we were going to remove the search function.

-- 
Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)



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