[pkg-boost-devel] boost-1.33.0-2 + 1.33.1 ?

[Domenico Andreoli]

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hi,

  this afternoon, Christophe and me had a nice talk on icq. here it
follows with editorial changes removing useless parts and improving
readability.  i hope to have not forgotten anything important.

cheers
domenico


presentations:

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(14:46:59) jesunix: The good part is that I need boost for my work so I can work on this during work time.
(14:47:34) cavok: this is the kind of co-maintainership i'm looking for
(14:47:51) cavok: which kind of work do you do? are you an academic?
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(14:51:27) jesunix: I am an academic and I work in scientific computing.
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(15:04:33) jesunix: Regarding helping you, I would do it gladly as I said, I can help with ublas and getting fixes in the debian tree ublas had a tendency to get broken in the last released versions.
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(15:47:08) cavok: i'm a c/c++/python programmer
(15:47:56) cavok: working to security and surveillance systems based on linux (almost embedded).
(15:48:17) jesunix: Cool! 
(15:48:28) cavok: yes, i like this job
(15:48:36) cavok: :)
(15:48:46) jesunix: And youtr employer uses Debian ?
(15:49:04) jesunix: For the business ?
(15:49:33) cavok: our employer left us the choice. we are doing well, so we keep what we have chosen. debian, of course :)
(15:49:44) cavok: that's all
(15:49:50) cavok: i've been lucky
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(15:50:32) jesunix: Excellent ! good job ! I am not too surprised though that debian fits the bill, but I can imagine that it must have been quite some work.

about subversion:

(15:19:29) cavok: have you ever used subversion?
(15:19:40) jesunix: I use it daily 
(15:19:43) cavok: ok
(15:19:57) cavok: until 1.32.0-6.1 everything was under cvs.
(15:20:20) cavok: starting with 1.33.0-2 it is on subversion, svn.debian.org
(15:20:25) jesunix: Super!
(15:20:58) cavok: between 1.32.0-6.1 and 1.33.0-2 it has been the far west on my filesystem..
(15:20:58) jesunix: Regarding your answer I agree what I did with the blind copy is a little dangerous.
(15:21:33) cavok: that is why i could not address the bugs while they were coming.
(15:21:44) jesunix: I understand :)
(15:22:03) cavok: now everything should be *more* easy :)

about the test suite:

(15:22:45) jesunix: (reading your email) regarding the testsuite I think is a very good idea 
(15:23:05) cavok: with 1.33.0 i also realized i could not have kept the thing alone for too much
(15:23:11) jesunix: Are you thinking about something like boost does for testsuite and also debian-gcc ?
(15:24:23) cavok: uh?
(15:24:36) cavok: i was thinking to re-use the boost test suite, of course..
(15:24:50) cavok: i don't think it reasonable to use anything else
(15:25:41) jesunix: By debian-gcc I meant that boost would be tested on a series of platforms with the testsuite and then there would be the webpage with the results.
(15:26:09) jesunix: Once everything is greenish then we have a go.
(15:27:29) jesunix: By testsuite I mean the boost testsuite and a result page like:  http://engineering.meta-comm.com/boost-regression/CVS-RC_1_33_0/developer/issues.html  but for debian only platforms.
(15:27:52) jesunix: And also only for the default compiler ?
(15:33:20) cavok: i'd say to use both methods...
(15:33:41) cavok: anyway something to be run at build time, for every upload and every arch
(15:34:26) cavok: better a testsuite that fails the build process if any test does not pass.
(15:35:42) cavok: i'm not too familiar with the boost test suite. i never known anything about the gcc one. (where are these pages?)
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(15:42:44) jesunix: Have a look at debian-gcc it seems that mathias Klose the maintainer has access to a number of platforms and can run de gcc testsuite the idea would be to do the same with the boost ones and by the way that could be a _very_ good test for gcc/g++ as boost uses state of the art c++

about unreleased boost libraries:

(15:30:13) jesunix: What do you think about adding some (hopefully) soon to be boost libraries ? like boost_logging for example.
(15:30:57) jesunix: With some disclaimer that is not part of boost of course at the moment and may be in the future with no warranty 
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(15:37:43) cavok: about new libraries, we could find a policy
(15:38:17) cavok: anyway i'd prefer to keep them separated from stable boost
(15:39:06) cavok: maybe a separate source package
(15:39:10) cavok: i relly don't know
(15:39:21) cavok: and franky i don't even care
(15:41:26) jesunix: Me too.

christophe's proposed works:

(15:43:50) jesunix: Regarding the ublas upgrade in your email  I say that it must be done, ublas is not usable in the current state.
(15:44:23) jesunix: You just need to copy the headers and perhaps check that the documentation is uptodate.
(15:44:54) jesunix: If you want that I am in charge of this (as you mentioned in the email) that's ok too :)
(15:45:31) cavok: as soon as steve gives his clearance you will be able to play with subversion :))
(15:45:44) jesunix: Ok lemme know :)
(15:46:32) cavok: sure. i'd like to make a short memo of this chat to be sent to the ml.
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(15:46:55) jesunix: Ok good idea.


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