Proposed new requirements for emacsen add-on packages

Stephane Crivisier stephane at crivisier.fr
Mon Jan 20 06:20:06 UTC 2014


-- 
Stephane Crivisier

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Rob Browning <rlb at defaultvalue.org>
wrote:

> Recently I've been fixing some non-trivial problems I introduced in
> emacsen-common 2.0.0 -- and to finish fixing them it looks like it may
> be best to change (and augment) some of the add-on package requirements.
> Originally, I'd really tried to make it so that as of emacsen-common
> 2.*, add-on packages didn't have to depend on *anything*, but that's
> proving difficult to unworkable, so I'm leaning toward adding a
> requirement that add-on packages depend on "emacsen-common >= 2.0.8".
> If it helps, emacsen-common is only about 140k installed.
> Here's what I have so far from the hypothetical 2.0.8 changelog:
>     Require add-on packages to depend on emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.
>     
>     This should be simpler and safer, and emacsen-common is only ~140k,
>     which shouldn't be too big a burden.  One specific problem this solves
>     is the handling of /var/lib/emacsen-common -- in particular
>     /var/lib/emacsen-common/state/package/installed/* if/when
>     emacsen-common is purged.  Without the dependency, emacsen-common
>     can't remove the tree without clobbering the state for every add-on,
>     but if emacsen-common can't remove it, who can?
>     
>     It seems better to add this requirement for now (which should also
>     simplify the emacsen infrastructure in general), than to have every
>     add-on try to decide when it's safe to remove
>     /var/lib/emacsen-common/state/package (i.e. when they're the last
>     add-on being removed from the system).
>     
>     This release changes the following requirements for add-on packages
>     (see debian-emacs-policy for the details):
>     
>       - They must now depend on emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.
>       - They don't need to conflict with emacsen-common anymore.
>       - They don't need to guard their calls to emacs-install-package.
>       - They don't need to guard their calls to emacs-remove-package.
>       - They should no longer manage their package/installed/ file directly.
>     
>     In addition emacsen flavor packages should now depend on
>     emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.
> Thoughts?  Strong objections?
> (And for whatever it's worth, I've been posting some relevant bits to
>  debian-emacsen at lists.debian.org lately, but I imagined that many/most
>  of you aren't subscribed.)
> Thanks
> -- 
> Rob Browning
> rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org
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