[Fwd: Re: Bug#435137: ITP: sa-learn-cyrus -- wrapper for sa-learn (from spamassassin) reading spam/ham messages from cyrus-imapd mailboxes]

[Benjamin Seidenberg]

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Bug#435137: ITP: sa-learn-cyrus -- wrapper for sa-learn
(from spamassassin) reading spam/ham messages from cyrus-imapd mailboxes
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:01:51 +0200
From: Jan Hauke Rahm <info at jhr-online.de>
To: Benjamin Seidenberg <benjamin at debian.org>, 435137 at bugs.debian.org
CC: Debian packaging coordination for Cyrus IMAPd
<pkg-cyrus-imapd-debian-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org>
References: <20070729140604.20339.97208.reportbug at motte>
<46AD2FDF.9050804 at debian.org>

Hi Benjamin,

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:25:03PM -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote:
> I haven't looked at this, and I'm curious how it's different (since I
> use sa-learn on my cyrus folders) but maybe this would be better if it
> were integrated into either the spamassasian or cyrus packages, in
> /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/examples....

I talked about this with the upstream author to have a more appropiate
opinion. He answered me with a few differences to sa-learn which I would
like to describe here:

* sa-learn-cyrus is able to work on a specified list of mailboxes and
can search for mailboxes itself. That way they can be selected by
regular expressions.

* sa-learn-cyrus is made to be run regularly (e.g. by cron). It corrects
for example permissions of bayes database if necessary.

* Mails which are given to sa-learn can be deleted in the mailbox
(optional).

Concerning your idea to integrate it into SA oder Cyrus packages: I
think this is kind of difficult because sa-learn-cyrus is just useful
when you have both of them installed. So where to pack it? A single
package for it depending on both SA and Cyrus seems to be better for me.

Beyond that the upstream author wrote that he made sa-learn-cyrus to
work on site-wide bayes databases but it should be able to work on user
specific ones, too. I don't really know how this differs from sa-learn
but he had that as an argument... ;)

So well, after all it's not my decision whether to make packages for it
or not but I think it's a good tool for Cyrus admins who are using SA
and I guess it should imho be packaged independent of SA or Cyrus. Feel
free to comment on this!

Hauke

PS: Again CC-ing the rest of the Debian Cyrus team for their opinions

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