[pkg-dhcp-devel] Bug#592539: (isc-dhcp-server: supply additional initscript for IPv6 daemon): Yet another idea how to solve this issue

[Rémy Sanchez]

On Monday 29 October 2012 15:00:51 Philipp Kern wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:52:42PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > Philipp Kern wrote:
> > > > This fix will enhance the IPv6-readyness in wheezy a lot, as in the
> > > > next years the IPv6 rollout in corporate networks requires DHCPv6 in
> > > > most cases (beside maybe parallel DHCPv4).
> > > 
> > > Meh, DHCPv6 is mostly used with Windows clients anyway.
> > 
> > I disagree. DHCPv6 is used a lot where you don't want SLAAC tell
> > outsiders (e.g. Google) how much hardware from which vendor is used in
> > your company/school
> 
> - privacy extensions
> 
> > and/or if you don't want your users to use privacy extensions to be
> > able to audit the internal network. That's all not OS-dependent.
> 
> - 802.1x
> - ND cache polling and/or traps
> 
> Auditing by "I gave him that address so he has to use it" in an address
> space as vast as IPv6 is ridiculous IMHO. In IPv4 you really ran into
> conflicts.
> 
> > > Many people relate the necessity of running DHCPv4 when using IPv4
> > > with DHCPv6 and IPv6.
> > 
> > I don't think so.
> 
> I know that there's the fixed assumption by many people that stateful
> DHCPv6 is essential, because that's how it's done with IPv4.
> 
> > > That's simply not true.
> > 
> > IMHO wrong. There's a true core in it: If you need to announce HTTP
> > proxies, NTP servers and other stuff besides just IP addresses in your
> > IPv6 network, SLAAC doesn't suffice and you need DHCPv6 even if SLAAC
> > is in use.
> 
> Stateless DHCPv6, yes. Which can often also be provided by the network
> components themselves because it's stateless. (But now I may be
> suggesting to use proprietary components in your network, which is also
> the reality, but I can as well shut up because it doesn't help the point
> here.)
> 
> Kind regards
> Philipp Kern

And why the hell could people need a X server when you can do almost 
everything with ncurses apps? I don't personally encourage packaging software 
for dump people...

No seriously guys, we're talking about a piece of init script that was 
submited two years ago and that enables a major feature of the package. Is it 
*so* hard to integrate ?

My 2 bitcoins,
-- 
Rémy Sanchez
http://hyperthese.net/
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