[Evolution] Bug#582358: Refuses to connect when network-manager installed
Torsten Landschoff
t.landschoff at gmx.net
Thu May 20 07:27:43 UTC 2010
Package: evolution
Version: 2.30.1.2-2
Severity: normal
Tags: sid
Hi Evolution packagers.
After upgrading my system yesterday, I was unable to read email using
evolution today. Everything related to working online (including the
"Work offline" menu item) was grayed out.
What's worse, there is no feedback from evolution as to why it would not
allow me to get my new email. After fighting pidgin on a netbook for
hours I guessed the problem is the same thing: Without asking the user
or leaving any loophole, the "$&%!"$ software relies on the indication
of network-manager if the system is online.
However, I did not willingly install network manager on this system. I
wanted to try the current KDE and installing kde pulled network manager
in. Given that I don't want a complex software managing my GBit local
ethernet adapter (ifup works fine, while network-manager has failed me
many times), I went ahead and removed network-manager and anything
related from my system.
After restarting evolution, I can now use it again.
Having to fight the system to tell it that the network is in fact
available feels like the worst days of Windows usage for me. Can we stop
going that "user-friendly" route?
I am not directly opposed to using network-manager as indication that
the system is offline. However, it should be easy to find out (using a
tooltip on the grayed menu entry, anything that pops up automatically).
I consider refusing to work without any indication as quite childish.
As you can see from the length of the email, this tripped a nerve for
me. I hope you can understand my point and coordinate with upstream to
improve the situation.
Thanks for your work!
Torsten
-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages evolution depends on:
ii dbus 1.2.24-1 simple interprocess
messaging syst
ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.32 Debian configuration
management sy
ii evolution-common 2.30.1.2-2 architecture independent
files for
ii evolution-data-server 2.30.1-4 evolution database backend
server
ii gconf2 2.28.1-3 GNOME configuration
database syste
ii gnome-icon-theme 2.30.2.1-1 GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.21-1 Library of functions for 2D
graphi
ii libatk1.0-0 1.30.0-1 The ATK accessibility
toolkit
ii libc6 2.10.2-8 Embedded GNU C Library:
Shared lib
ii libcairo2 1.8.10-4 The Cairo 2D vector
graphics libra
ii libcamel1.2-14 2.30.1-4 The Evolution MIME message
handlin
ii libcanberra-gtk0 0.24-1 Gtk+ helper for playing
widget eve
ii libcanberra0 0.24-1 a simple abstract interface
for pl
ii libdbus-1-3 1.2.24-1 simple interprocess
messaging syst
ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.86-1 simple interprocess
messaging syst
ii libebackend1.2-0 2.30.1-4 Utility library for
evolution data
ii libebook1.2-9 2.30.1-4 Client library for
evolution addre
ii libecal1.2-7 2.30.1-4 Client library for
evolution calen
ii libedataserver1.2-11 2.30.1-4 Utility library for
evolution data
ii libedataserverui1.2-8 2.30.1-4 GUI utility library for
evolution
ii libegroupwise1.2-13 2.30.1-4 Client library for
accessing group
ii libenchant1c2a 1.4.2-3.6 a wrapper library for
various spel
ii libevolution 2.30.1.2-2 evolution libraries
ii libfontconfig1 2.8.0-2.1 generic font configuration
library
ii libfreetype6 2.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine,
shared lib
ii libgconf2-4 2.28.1-3 GNOME configuration
database syste
ii libgdata-google1.2-1 2.30.1-4 Client library for
accessing Googl
ii libgdata1.2-1 2.30.1-4 Client library for
accessing Googl
ii libglib2.0-0 2.24.1-1 The GLib library of C
routines
ii libgnome-desktop-2-17 2.30.0-2 Utility library for
loading .deskt
ii libgnomecanvas2-0 2.30.1-1 A powerful object-oriented
display
ii libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-1 The GTK+ graphical user
interface
ii libgtkhtml-editor0 3.30.1-2 HTML rendering/editing
library - e
ii libgtkhtml3.14-19 3.30.1-2 HTML rendering/editing
library - r
ii libgweather1 2.30.0-2 GWeather shared library
ii libical0 0.44-3 iCalendar library
implementation i
ii libice6 2:1.0.6-1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange
library
ii libnotify1 [libnotify1- 0.4.5-1 sends desktop notifications
to a n
ii libnspr4-0d 4.8.4-1 NetScape Portable Runtime
Library
ii libnss3-1d 3.12.6-2 Network Security Service
libraries
ii libpango1.0-0 1.28.0-1 Layout and rendering of
internatio
ii libsm6 2:1.1.1-1 X11 Session Management
library
ii libsoup2.4-1 2.30.1-1 an HTTP library
implementation in
ii libsqlite3-0 3.6.23.1-2 SQLite 3 shared library
ii libstartup-notification 0.10-1 library for program launch
feedbac
ii libunique-1.0-0 1.1.6-1 Library for writing single
instanc
ii libxml2 2.7.7.dfsg-2 GNOME XML library
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library -
runtime
Versions of packages evolution recommends:
ii bogofilter 1.2.1-2 a fast Bayesian spam filter
(dummy
ii evolution-plugins 2.30.1.2-2 standard plugins for
Evolution
ii evolution-webcal 2.28.0-1 webcal: URL handler for
GNOME and
ii gnome-desktop-data 2.30.0-2 Common files for GNOME
desktop app
pn yelp <none> (no description available)
Versions of packages evolution suggests:
ii bug-buddy 2.30.0+dfsg-1 GNOME Desktop Environment
bug repo
pn evolution-dbg <none> (no description available)
pn evolution-exchange <none> (no description available)
pn evolution-plugins-experime <none> (no description available)
ii gnupg 1.4.10-3 GNU privacy guard - a free
PGP rep
pn network-manager <none> (no description available)
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