[pkg-fgfs-crew] Flightgear for Wheezy

[Niels Thykier]

On 2014-01-25 14:31, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Dear Megaf,
> 

Hi,

Adding the maintainer to CC.

> Am Samstag, den 25.01.2014, 10:59 -0200 schrieb Megaf:
>> Hi all. I was wondering why there's no Flightgear for Wheezy, then I
>> found out this.
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/11/msg01284.html
>>
>>
>> The thing is, all those bugs are all fixed now.
>>
>>
>> Bellow a short chat I had at Flightgear official channel at
>> irc.flightgear.org
>>
>> * Now talking on #flightgear
>>
>> [....]
> [...]
> The current status of the package with regard to entering wheezy can be
> seen on 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/flightgear.html
> where it says:
> out of date on kfreebsd-amd64: flightgear (from 2.4.0-1.2)
> out of date on kfreebsd-i386: flightgear (from 2.4.0-1.2)
> flightgear (source, i386, amd64, armel, armhf, kfreebsd-amd64,
> kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x, sparc, ia64) has new bugs!
> Updating flightgear introduces new bugs: #724686.
> 
> That but says it is blocked by #720816, which was only closed recently.
> So there is progress!
> 

While it may have (also) been blocked by #720816, which was fixed
recently, it is *still* blocked by #724686, which remains unfixed.
There is a patch for that bug, but it hasn't been uploaded yet despite
being available since 26th of Sep.  I have been told that it has been
applied to the repository, so hopefully it just need someone to do an
upload (and accordingly, the CC of the flightgear maintainers).

> The page also says that flightgear is part of two transitions, which can
> further slow things down.
> 

Once #724686 is fixed, we need to finish two "local" transitions around
flightgear.  One being openscenegraph and the other being simgear (the
latter also maintained by the FlightGear maintainers).

simgear needs flightgear fixed (#724686) and fgrun (#719402).
Alternatively, the maintainers of fgrun willing (that would be the
FlightGear maintainers again), we can ask the FTP masters to decruft
simgear despite breaking fgrun.  This would make fgrun uninstallable in
sid, but it is already RC buggy and not in testing, so from the RT PoV,
we don't mind that as a resolution.

This leaves the openscenegraph transition.  This is currently waiting
for choreonoid [mipsel], fgrun (but see above), flightgear [kfreebsd-*
mips], libcitygml, openwalnut and simgear.  Note, the listed packages
are source packages; the actual problem is one (or more) of the binary
packages built from said sources.  Some of these will probably just need
a binNMU to finish.

> So I guess eventually things will work out, just be patient for a little
> while.
> 
> Greetings,
> Joachim
> 
> 
> 

This situation will not resolve itself on its own.  It needs a "Do'er"
to get the mess cleaned up - I suspect that mostly that someone just
needs to prod people into doing their part and then filing a binNMU
request for the subset of the packages above that can be binNMU'ed
(which excludes packages that are "horribly" broken, e.g. FTBFS).
  These transitions are currently not handled by the release team.
Openscenegraph was considered but the request was closed (see #729289).
 I suppose we ought to reopen it, since the transition is certainly not
done.

If you (maintainer or otherwise) are interested in getting the situation
resolved, but unsure how to approach it, I don't mind spending an hour
or two showing you the ropes.
  "But I will only show you the door"[1].  As a member of the Release
Team, I want to know there is someone taking responsibility for making
flightgear remain RC bug free, so it is not removed from testing again
due to inactivity.

~Niels

[1] To (almost) quote a certain movie.