[pkg-fso-maint] New phoneuid snapshot?

Sebastian Reichel elektranox at gmail.com
Wed Jun 2 18:15:51 UTC 2010


On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:59:34PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:14:49PM +0200, Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:51:25PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:04:22PM +0200, Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:52:02PM +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> 
> 
> >>>2. shr-frameworkd does not exist, but fso-frameworkd uses
> >>>  python-phoneutils in opimd
> >>
> >>As I have tried to clarify several places, the graph only
> >>reflects packages in Debian Sid.  I fail to locate opimd in sid.
> >
> >opimd is one of the modules of fso-frameworkd.
> 
> Ah, ok.  I guess (based on other comments of yours below) that this
> is irrelevant for the packaging currently in Debian Sid.  I will
> update when things change there.

Apart from the fact that there is not yet an FSO2 alternative to
opimd from FSO1 ;) I guess
Provides: fso-usaged, fso-deviced, fso-gsmd
should be added to fso-frameworkd to improve dependencies between
the packages.

> >>Yes, shr-frameworkd is a package name invented by me.  I made it
> >>dotted for that reason.  The reason I added it was that I would
> >>expect a future package providing SHR to be named something
> >>similar to that - and provide the virtual package frameworkd
> >>currently provided only by fso-frameworkd and apparently unused
> >>anywhere currently.
> >
> >In recent versions of the framework opimd uses the library and SHR
> >applications make use of it. The framework version in Debian 'main'
> >is very old though (== it does not use it).
> 
> Debian "main" tells that it is free software.
> 
> I guess you mean Debian "unstable" a.k.a. "Sid" (updated every 6
> hours, unlike "stable", currently codenamed "Lenny", which is
> updated each 2-3 years).

Yes, I meant Debian sid main. SHR is free software ;)

> >>>4. About fso-frameworkd, it actually provides an alternative
> >>>  implementation of fso-usaged, fso-deviced and fso-gsmd
> >>
> >>Ok.  Those three packages together?  Are they equal competitors, or
> >>are one or the other deprecated?
> >
> >well fso-frameworkd is one big python daemon consisting of multiple
> >modules, which are ousaged, odeviced, ogsmd, ...
> >
> >FSO2 splits the big python daemon into multiple daemons. So you can
> >disable individual modules in /etc/frameworkd.conf and use the FSO2
> >implementation instead.
> 
> Ok.  I think I understand it now.
> 
> I have added another made-up package fso2-frameworkd to reflect this.
> 
> 
> >>>6. intone has a link to the framework, since it automatically
> >>>  pauses audio when you are called
> >>
> >>That should be fixed in package dependencies, then.  Currently
> >>intone to not depend on the framework.
> >
> >No, since it works fine without fso-frameworkd, too, it just
> >suggests to install it ;)
> 
> Yes. I noticed it just now.  I won't reflect that in the graph, then.
> 
> I would suggest to add an "Enhances: fso-frameworkd" to intone to
> better reflect this.

that would mean, that intone enhances fso-frameworkd, but it's the
other way around ;) At least according to the Debian Policy I did
the right thing:

http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html

(7.2 Suggests/Enhances)

-- Sebastian
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