[SCM] Packaging for Tile World branch, master, updated. debian/1.3.0-5-7-gceb0c4d

[Gerfried Fuchs]

   Hi again.

* Peter Pentchev <roam at ringlet.net> [2011-02-11 12:02:01 CET]:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:51:23AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> >  Also, this change is actually a total rewrite of the package and I
> > consider this a hijack.  Changes like that *HAVE* to be discussed with
> > the uploaders, otherwise this is pretty useless.
> > 
> >  I'm going to revert your commits unless you are starting to
> > communicate, thanks.
> 
> Right.  You're absolutely right, and I apologize.

 Not too much of a trouble, that's what we have VCSes for in the first
place. It just struck me badly as I am trying to work against the
non-communication habit that unfortunately is still hanging around like
a big cloud over big areas within Debian, and I don't like to be
force-feed stuff without prior notice or contact, especially in packages
I care about.

 I want to express that I'm not opposed to help, not at all.  That's
what the team is all about, and it should be encouraged to not stick in
your pet-packages but do work on a broader scale. But then (and this is
a general preach), pretty please let's improve on our communication
between at least the people that are listed in uploaders for the
packages. Especially when intrusive changes are done. Smaller changes
are fine and everything, but complete rewrites of the rules file and all
additional maintainer scripts, including changing order of package
entries in the control file (I wonder why) has to be discussed,
otherwise we can consider us practically dysfunctional and working
against each other instead of together.

> I was thinking about making those changes in a separate branch (as I'm
> actually doing on my end) and pushing it to the master git repo as
> a branch for comments... I guess I should have done that instead of
> rebasing on the master branch and pushing.

 Right, would be a step in the proper direction. :)

> Apologies again; and yes, please feel free to revert my changes so far
> if they go against the grain of your idea of maintaining Tile World!
> I understand why people would not want to use debhelper - it does add
> a bit to the build time, even if it helps a lot in other ways :)

 It's not that I'm opposed to debhelper per se. It can be helpful and
gets things more streamlined. Though, actually one of the patches you
introduced actually more-or-less replaced the whole upstream Makefile
just to be able to work with debhelper. I'm not totally convinced that
this is the way to go. And actually I am not really a fan of the dh7
short style of just "dh" and overrides all over the place. It hides way
too much details of what's going on and makes it actually more
complicated and require more knowledge of people who like to change bits
than it really brings useful things along with.

> Right now I have to leave for a while; I'll write back later with a
> list of other changes I think would benefit Tile World for your
> approval.

 Yes, we can of course discuss this offlist, on IRC, jabber or whatever
you prefer. :)

 Enjoy!
Rhonda
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