[Pkg-hpijs-devel] Bug#452348: HPLIP doesn't mention new user-in-scanner-group requirement, other issues

[Josselin Mouette]

Hi,

Le jeudi 22 novembre 2007 à 23:40 +0000, Mark Purcell a écrit :
> On Thursday 22 November 2007, Christopher Martin wrote:
> > On November 22, 2007 07:43:12 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > If you install such a desktop file, I recommend that you add a
> > > "NotShowIn=KDE;GNOME" stanza so that it doesn't show up by default.
> > > It can then be enabled on a per-user basis simply by editing the
> > > menu.
> >
> > ..if, of course, the user ever realizes that the software (meaning the
> > toolbox and associated features) exists. 
> 
> I must admit I'm with Christopher on this one, if the package is installed 
> it's icon should be included in the menu.  Asking a user of a GUI to edit a 
> txt file before they see the icons sounds like crazyness..

I don't know for KDE, but there is nothing like that for GNOME; there is
only a box to check in the menu editor.

> That said the .desktop files have actually been moved into a hplip-gui 
> package, so if you want the icons you can install the hplip-gui package and 
> if you don't want the icons then you can just install the hplip package.

Is the hplip-gui package part of the default installation?

> So Christopher, installing hplip-gui may solve your icon issue.
> 
> Joss, if hplip is deemed worthy of the default installation, then why wouldn't 
> a user want the icons shown?

Several reasons:
     1. It is a vendor-specific application. Users without a HP printer
        shouldn't see it, end of story.
     2. It has zero integration with the desktop. We have enough trouble
        with crap like iceweasel being part of the default install while
        we are working to make the desktop consistent with applications
        that look alike and integrate with each other.
     3. There is already another application to configure the printers.
        It is not reasonable to provide two of them as it is only
        confusing users.

I don't understand why hplip is part of the default install to begin
with. But if it has to, it shouldn't pollute the menu, in which space is
an expensive resource, with an application most users don't need and
don't care about. (It also shouldn't fill memory with a daemon users
don't need, but that's another story.)

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