[Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#591459: Bug#591459: Processed: unarchiving 591459

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 08:32:19AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 12:40:00AM +0900, Osamu Aoki a écrit :
> > 
> > I thought compose key is supported by ibus-xkbc package.  Are you having
> > problem with it?  Unlike SCIM, you need this package to have deadkey
> > support.
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> sorry for not following immediately the unarchiving by a better explanation; I
> went to sleep first ;)
> 
> I would like to re-open this bug.  I think that ibus-xkbc may be
> a temporary workaround, but it is definitely not a solution.
> 
>  1) Ibus is still broken as it does not support the compose key
>     natively.  Can you imagine if we would need a module for
>     the shift key ?
> 
>  2) If Ibus becomes the recommended input manager in GNOME3, then
>     the loss of transparent support for the compose key is a regression
>     compared with previous from GNOME2 plus default input manager.
> 
>  3) ibus-xkbc is a keyboard layout switching module whose functionality is
>     redundant with X.org's layout switching (well supported by the GNOME shell).
>     Keyboard layouts and input systems are two different things operated
>     independantly.  I switch between Japanese and Canadian layouts, and
>     within this or that layout, I switch input methods when I need to
>     type Japanese.  Under the ibus-xkbc, this is more complicated.

Redundancy was there with SCIM.
 
>  4) I think that it is fair to expect from input systems that,
>     when no input method is selected, the keyboard behaves exactly
>     the same as when the input system is not running.
> 
> Unless it becomes easy to replace Ibus on GNOME3, and for the
> moment I have the impression that UIM is not so well integrated,
> or unless the Ibus developers have decided upstream to never
> support the compose key directly, I think that the current situation
> is bug a that should be reflected in our BTS.
> 
> I have added my voice to the other users asking for a better support of the
> compose key in the upstream BTS as well.
> http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=526#c43

Good.  That is the right place to discuss such basic topics involving design of 
the ibus infrastructure.

I think FEDORA people are driving this upstream development.  They are
doing quite a lot of updates for GNOME3.  1.4.1 is almost released.

The ibus has many keyboard configurations other than CJK.