[Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#692424: Bug#692424: ibus: Merge fixes from Ubuntu

[Jeremy Bicha]

On 10 November 2012 21:20, Aron Xu <happyaron.xu at gmail.com> wrote:
> GNOME 3.6 can live with older version of ibus if you don't enable the
> compile time integration, and currently the integration makes input
> experience gets downgraded heavily, it's highly recommended not to enable it
> at least for this cycle.

But then users won't have any integration at all. That means users
won't have the keyboard indicator which affects far more people than
just ibus users and it can make log in quite a bit more difficult.

> Reasons behind are the integration hides most input method engines in ibus
> that GNOME developers think useless, they believe that only a small number
> of high quality engines will be able to handle all the users' needs, while
> most of them have never tried a input method, not mentioning how users
> depend on the existence of many many different engines that they never heard
> about.
>
> Another reason is when you have the integration enabled and ibus-daemon
> available, any other input method framework will not work because
> gnome-settings-daemon will continusly reset the input method related
> variables and try to start ibus. In this case nether the alternative input
> method framework nor ibus can behave normally.

I don't know much about ibus as I don't use it. I'm just working on
the ibus transition because it is now intertwined with GNOME
3.6...which has already been released with Ubuntu 12.10 last month.

As far as I've seen, there hasn't really been any discussion about the
GNOME ibus integration since your thread in July. Distros are already
shipping GNOME 3.6. Now that 3.7 is just starting, it may be a good
time to discuss improving the input method feature. Integration with
other input method frameworks likely won't be considered but there
should be a way to bypass the integration for users or distros who
need something else.

As far as Ubuntu is concerned, I believe ibus is the only "supported"
input method, but we should probably be having this conversation in a
more public place among people that are more knowledge and affected by
this than I am.

The list of ibus engines looks pretty extensive in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/tree/panels/region/gnome-region-panel-input.c#n67
but if anything is missing, it looks easy to patch it in.

> Although I don't recommend to use a pre-release version, patches are
> welcomed to help us make everything better.

Ubuntu already postponed that transition one cycle and there simply
isn't enough reason to keep putting it off.

Jeremy