[Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#692423: Bug#692423: ibus-anthy: Missing python dependencies

Aron Xu happyaron.xu at gmail.com
Mon Nov 12 02:37:58 UTC 2012


On 11/06/2012 10:19 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On 6 November 2012 08:44, Osamu Aoki <osamu at debian.org> wrote:
>> So actually, only python-glade2 may be good idea to add to the list.
>
> Ok, that's correct. But please don't close valid bugs just because you
> don't feel like fixing them today. python-glade2 is definitely not
> something that is installed on an average Debian system. Since
> ibus-anthy won't work without python-glade2, I think this bug's
> importance is easily "Serious" and therefore RC. The original Ubuntu
> bug was http://pad.lv/829876
>

I have checked that this does not exist in experimental version, as 
upstream has dropped glade. I'm thinking about requesting unblock for 
this update, bug give me some more time.

>>> This is the only diff between Ubuntu and Debian for this package.
>>
>> Debian's objective is not match Ubuntu.  Please explain this update
>> benefits current Debian.  Your bug report is not so friendly kind to us.
>> We are not releasing these for Ubuntu.  Without assessing merit and
>> risks, no patch is accepted from Ubuntu.
>
> I'm sorry if my bug report seemed rude or unfriendly. It definitely
> was not intended that way.
>
> Having packages in sync makes it easy to verify that Ubuntu didn't fix
> something in their packages and neglected to forward that fix to
> Debian (as this bug which was fixed in Ubuntu a year ago). You can use
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/ibus or
> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-ime-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
> to easily check the Ubuntu versions.
>
> Also, it is much easier on Ubuntu developers to include the latest
> fixes from Debian if they can do a sync instead of a merge.
>
> Just because you don't care about Ubuntu does not mean that you should
> refuse contributions from Ubuntu.
>

We have worked with Ubuntu people extensively before, and such a long 
statement is not necessary. But please make sure double check before 
submitting patches because some Ubuntu patches are quick-n-dirty fixes 
that we won't accept. Also please be kind to people here, at least 
because Ubuntu's input method support actually relies on Debian pkg-ime, 
and many (if not most) of the troubles you are dealing with at Ubuntu 
are originated from your not accepting our advices for reasons that 
Ubuntu people think something is good.

>> Please do not make us spend more time explaining than you thinking and
>> doing explanation.
>
> Actually, it's your job as a Debian maintainer to triage bugs in the
> packages you maintain. I've reported multiple valid bugs in
> ibus-related packages today and given the somewhat unfriendly
> reaction, I'm less motivated to do so in the future.
>

Your help is appreciated, but we are not arguing that your attitude 
makes us less motivated to cooperate with Ubuntu developers in the 
future. We have the responsibility to do our best but we are also 
volunteers, nobody pays us for doing such work.


-- 
Regards,
Aron Xu



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