[Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#690605: Bug#690605: ibus-xkbc: not installed on with desktop metapackage

[Aron Xu]

Control: reassign -1 ibus

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, westlake <westlake2012 at videotron.ca> wrote:
> Package: ibus-xkbc
> Version: 1.3.3.20100922-2
> Severity: normal
>
> Dear Maintainer,
> dunno, but finding out about this package if one needs to configure
> his keyboard to additional input control for other languages is very remote..
> I'm sort of raising the suggestion this should be part of a desktop
> metapackage.. as there's already two Keyboard sections in a gnome
> environment to change keyboard settings (keyboard and RegionalNLanguage), and
> sometimes a there needs to be a tweak with the input method system that
> would benefit many.. yet this is very non-intuitive
>

I see your point, and I agree it's not intuitive. But unfortunately we
can't add ibus to Recommends for all desktop tasks, and even if any
GNOME package do that then it is a bug.

It's a long story to tell the whole thing, but in short it is not an
ideal solution because some (significant amount of) users have other
preference on input method framework other than ibus. It could be
added to ibus package so that users of ibus get this feature by
default.

There were some discussions about how the input method integration
should be implemented in GNOME, but the outcome was that GNOME
designers and developers disagreed to accept the advices from input
method developers and took an approach that has led us to an
embarrassing situation.

> I shouldnt compare distros, but in ubuntu there are 3 modes selectable from
> a pulldown itemlist concerning which input method system to use. This is arranged
> as part it's desktop install..('Keyboard layout' icon in its systemsettings)
>

If you'd like to choose which input method framework to use, try
im-config. After you have installed the package, run the command
"im-config" from a terminal and then follow the guide.

Ubuntu has language-selector, a tool said to be deprecated by GNOME's
new control center component, but the replace won't happen in the
upcoming 12.10 at least. The input method framework selection part of
language-selector is a frontend of im-switch, which has been
deprecated by im-config in Debian. If the tool won't get out of 13.04,
I'll try to push patch to migrate it from im-switch to im-config. We
won't have that tool because it manages language packs and fonts as
well, which are pointless for Debian.

> The similar settings(on debian) can be found in the Ibus app, on the 2nd tab 'Input Method'
> but this isnt installed by default and largely complements anything 'Keyboard' and RegionalNLanguage
> in systemsettings..
>
> (I didnt raise this until a few people were asking me on irc related questions
> about input method systems for typing in other languages)
>

Thanks for your reporting the issue!


-- 
Regards,
Aron Xu