[Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#690605: Bug#690605: Bug#690605: ibus-xkbc: not installed on with desktop metapackage

Ma Xiaojun damage3025 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 17 00:57:42 UTC 2012


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Aron Xu <happyaron.xu at gmail.com> wrote:
> From a distribution's perspective, we should preserve the possibility
> of choosing their favorites to users, but not always given them a
> default and tell them use it or go away. Your claim on those editors
> are not related to this issue anyhow.
aptitude purge or apt-get purge if someone don't like the default provided IMF.

> Adding ibus-xkbc to Recommends of ibus package will solve this problem
> for ibus users, even they are not your so-called "tweakers", and won't
> cause trouble for users of other input method frameworks. If you see
> there is any flaw in this design please speak up then.
Well, you may end up Recommends all available engines of IBus?
Who knows which engine provides what?

> Not sure. GNOME developers care about their integration and does not
> accept opinions from other users and developers. Your claim shows that
> you are an ibus fan who tries to prevent other GNOME users from using
> whatever others they want, especially I help working on ibus as well
> as fcitx in Debian and Ubuntu. If you are in doubt of my last
> sentence, read on.
I have never been a fan of IBus.
I know its flaws.
I'm a fan works-out-of-the-box.
GNOME 3.6's integration is not good enough currently for sure.
But it eliminates the need to rely on distribution specific tool of
IMF Enabling/Switching and/or automatic installation of input methods
based on particular language, this is the point.
Fcitx is still usable on GNOME 3.6 if you want.
http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Note_for_GNOME_Later_than_3.6
I think the procedure is no harder than replacing existing IBus with
Fcitx on other environments.

> Actually Ubuntu uses almost whatever provided in Debian on input
> method perspective. They know there are im-config in Debian, and the
> migration was blocked by no one is changing the code, and this is the
> only reason of not moving away from im-switch. It's not a matter of
> choice among distributions, just a man power problem. I can't say that
> I know in and out about the whole thing of input method in
> Debian/Ubuntu, but I'm sure that I'm one of the most active developer
> who keeps ibus and fcitx running on both distribution, it's quite
> unfair to classify me as a fanboy of something, ;-)
Thank you for contributions.
Using switching tools in various distributions are already much better
than changing environmental variables directly.
But concept trickiness of IMF switching and the unintuitive nature of
these tools make me believe that a working default is quite important.
Ubuntu



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