[Pkg-ltsp-devel] Bug#480661: ltsp-server: ltsp "compiler" should not depend on daemons

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Mon May 12 19:14:29 UTC 2008


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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:23:33AM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
>On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:51:40AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

>> I'd like to install "compilers" without such hosts becoming 
>> "servers".  That becomes tricky with your approach.
>
>you simply need to install ltsp-server without the recommended 
>packages...

I do know how dependencies work.  I do know that I can opt-out from 
recommends.  So you find it sane to "recommend" the whole LTSP 
environment even to users that explicitly avoid your -standalone 
package?

Like advertisings:  Do you want to buy all our crap or do you want us to 
spam you first with offers about our crap?  No, you cannot avoid the 
spam, but it is really easy to just delete it as it comes in...


>> What is the logic behind the current package split?  Why don't you 
>> like the separate package approach anymore?
>
>the logic is that ltsp-server-standalone depends on *all* of the 
>functionality, whereas ltsp-server will *typically* have most of the 
>core functionality(as recommends are pulled in by default), but allow 
>you to strip it down to a bare-bones if needed(by avoiding installation 
>or removing the undesired daemons).

I do understand how dependencies work.  My question was about the 
_intend_ of the chosen dependencies.  It seems to me that you provide 
two packages aimed at fullfilling same needs, while I miss a package 
with a more limited (and, admitted, less common - who keeps those old 
iMacs around still?) scope.

I mean - if only you provided a single package I could understand it 
recommending daemons, but you provide 2 packages - 
ltsp-server-standalone that ensures everything works, and ltps-server 
with what different aim?

If you do not want to expand with a new binary package, then how about 
lowering daemon dependencies to suggests for the ltsp-server package?



  - Jonas

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