[Pkg-mc-devel] Request to Join Project GNU Midnight Commander
andreas at fam-tille.de
Wed Mar 16 16:23:31 UTC 2011
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:15:42PM +0100, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
> Thanks for your offer. I haven't had a look at the bug that you
> mentioned yet, but I have no problem with you joining the project.
> It would be nice to get help with packaging, but then please subscribe
> to pkg-mc-devel and let's discuss how we can progress together.
I just put this list in CC (not yet subscribed for stupid technical
difficulties with proxy or so). Moreover I would like to express the
fact that I will definitely not a main contributor to mc packaging.
My main focus is the Debian Med project which basically consumes all
my spare time (I could spend even more). However, I might lend a
helping hand for MC if it is urgently needed - as well I need MC as
my work horse urgently.
> The problem why we've fallen so far behind is that the svn workflow
> became really a PITA and the package history is really useless and
> polluted, so I wanted to migrate to git by reconstructing the proper
> history from snapshots, but this hasn't happened so far, because gitpkg
> which I decided to use initially had many issues that I fixed (kind of)
> just to discover that git-buildpackage does it differently and has none
> of this problems.
I can not pseak for the MC packaging team. However from my experience
we have some silent agreement in other teams that packaging history can
be reconstructed from snapshots *if* needed. There are quite rare cases
were you really need the complete history - so if it takes a certain
amount of your time to push the complete history into git this time is
most probably not very well spent compared to other more productive
tasks. I don't say that history is not important - I just mean you
might spend some time for a formalism which might have no practical
> Other than that I was waiting for 184.108.40.206 to get out of the door, now
> it's out, but it also means that a revamp of the whole package is needed
> and it doesn't make sense to do it before migrating to git.
So my (outsiders !) advise would be: Creating the git repository based
on the current packaging (perhaps the version in stable + testing +
unstable to be able to work on security releases) and then proceed
with the new upstream version is perfectly appropriate.
> Sooo... it could be that I'll get to finishing it in the next few weeks.
> If you will then help me to go through the bugs and see if they are
> still relevant to the new packaging or can be fixed this will be already
> of huge help.
The "problem" I reported in #616196 is rather a minor one but my idea
was to save your time to care for those things. As I said above: I
will not spend a lot of time in MC packaging, sorry.
> Otherwise, if you'd like to and you have time to help earlier with the
> migration we can also figure something out.
> I don't want to block the development of the packaging just because I
> don't have time. If someone really has time and incentive to do better
> than me, let's figure something out.
I'm not a git expert and letting me fixing svn to git stuff is not a
sane idea. As I said above: My suggestion would be to not block the
development by just not doing tasks which are not visible for the
user and not really necessary for the developers. But that's just
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