[Pkg-mlmmj-devel] Bug#862258: Bug#862258: so far

[Thomas Goirand]

On 06/12/2017 12:01 AM, Geert Stappers wrote:
> 
> So far is this bugreport missing how the existence of a mlmmj user
> could hinder any mlmmj workflow.
> 
> There is being told "not needed".  And "do it by hand".
> That are no good reasons to block something that upstream advices.
> 
> 
> Going to CTTE is indeed an option, for later.
> 
> Please reconsider the creation of an user during install.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geert Stappers
> Hoping that the BTS accepts this update to this premature closed bugreport.

What you're advising is to use an MLMMJ user, and later on using that
user for the cron job. That's at least what your patch shows. In such
configuration, it would break any user that is using virtual hosting
with one UUID per user (and that's only one type of setup). If we
wouldn't be using the MLMMJ user for the cron job, then your patch
becomes simply useless (why creating a user if we're not using it?).

Last, your proposed patch is *unconditionally* creating the user,
meaning that those who don't want it will have it forced into their
system on every upgrade. I don't want to force such a thing to someone
who doesn't want it.

On your side, you don't have any point of argumentation except
"something that upstream advices", and the fact that you want it for
your own usage. There's no point of argumentation about why it's so
important to have that system user being setup *by default* (ie: of
course, it's very easy for anyone to simply run adduser on the shell, or
automate the task with a simple script). On top of this, you just insist
repeating over and over the same thing (ie: empty argumentation). This
is becoming annoying and pointless.

I really would like all of this noise to stop. Please don't insist the
way you're doing: it's the wrong way. A more constructive way would have
for example proposing a patch with a debconf question, or explaining
your use case, and why it's not possible to run adduser by hand or with
a script.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)