Icy debacle history - what happened to Thunderbird in 2004?

[Filipus Klutiero]

Le October 27, 2008 11:54:42 pm Eric Dorland, vous avez écrit :
> * Filipus Klutiero (chealer at gmail.com) wrote:
> > Le October 27, 2008 12:00:16 pm Eric Dorland, vous avez écrit :
> > > * Filipus Klutiero (chealer at gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > according to
> > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/12/msg00342.html Mozilla
> > > > Corp wanted Thunderbird to be lightly rebranded as far as 2004. What
> > > > happened with this request? Did Mozilla change their mind until 2006
> > > > or what?
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > pkg-mozilla-maintainers mailing list
> > > > pkg-mozilla-maintainers at lists.alioth.debian.org
> > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-mozilla-maintaine
> > > >rs
> > >
> > > There previous position was that we couldn't use the term "Mozilla"
> > > but it was ok to use the program's name. They changed their mind in
> > > 2006.
> >
> > Yes, but why did Sarge not follow this 2004 request? Was is lack of time?
> > If so, was it done after sarge's release or not at all (until the
> > stronger request of 2006)?
>
> I don't recall the thunderbird situation, but for firefox we renamed
> the package from mozilla-firefox to just firefox and I don't think
> there was much other mozilla branding on it.

Thanks, I could verify this since the latest thunderbird package is still 
installable in testing! I see the renaming from "Mozilla Thunderbird" to 
just "Thunderbird". However, I don't see any of the names suggested by 
Gervase in 2004: "one of "Thunderbird for Debian" or "Debian
Thunderbird"".

Did Gervase's 2005 proposal made just "Thunderbird" possible? I can see
"1) The Foundation grants Debian, and all redistributors of the official 
Debian packages of the Foundation's products, the right to label those 
packages with a name containing the trademark. "
which does say "a name containing the trademark", without specifying that 
name, but not "any name containing the trademark". Did that mean that just 
Thunderbird became OK?

I suppose Alexander can comment on this.