Bug#570579: Fwd: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

[Sune Vuorela]

Hi Frans

Thangs for cc'ing the kde people.  I'm not sure I have anything more to add, 
but I do agree that packages that isn't expected to be $DE-only should not by 
default isntall $DE specific packages.

/Sune


On Friday 19 February 2010 22:35:35 Frans Pop wrote:
> FYI
> 
> Please follow up to the BR (#570579) if you have anything to add to it.
> 
> Cheers,
> FJP
> 
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> Package: xulrunner
> Version: 1.9.1.8-2
> Severity: important
> Tags: d-i
> X-Debbugs-CC: tasksel at packages.debian.org
> 
> I was very surprised when I upgraded a KDE system to find that xulrunner
> tried to pull in all sorts of GNOME packages. It was quite a bit of work
> to unselect everything that got pulled in through those Recommends.
> 
> I'm talking about the Recommends for:
> - libdbus-glib-1-2
> - libgconf2-4
> - libgnome2-0
> - libgnomeui-0
> - libgnomevfs2-0
> And the deps for those packages are far from trivial.
> 
> I guess the change was introduced in 1.9.1.6-2 with:
>    Merge xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support into xulrunner-1.9.1.
> 
> But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant as
> Recommends should only be used for packages "that would be found together
> with this one in all but unusual installations" [1].
> And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment. For
> systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in a lot of
> cases very much not desired.
> 
> I also question the value of the Recommends: if a user is running GNOME
> they will all be installed already anyway!
> 
> As Debian Installer now installs Recommends by default and the desktop
> tasks installs iceweasel for all desktops, this means that all those GNOME
> packages would get installed on KDE desktop systems by default,
> 
> As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge you
> to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make iceweasel
> unsuitable for default installation.
> I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for
> specific desktop environments should always be optional.
> 
> Cheers,
> FJP
> 
> [1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binaryde
> ps -------------------------------------------------------
> 

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