Bug#815006: Renaming Iceweasel to Firefox

Wouter Verhelst w at uter.be
Thu Feb 18 10:35:11 UTC 2016


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 07:48:25AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:55:42 +0100 Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
> 
> > = About the Debian specific patches =
> 
> Mozilla's trademark policy isn't clear about how much modification
> requires Mozilla's written consent. Any written consent except for a
> clarification to Mozilla's trademark guidelines would be specific to
> Debian and thus would be in violation of DFSG item 8. Debian cannot
> make agreements with Mozilla about this that don't also apply to all
> distributors of modified versions of Mozilla's software.
> 
> What is the plan to solve this dilemma?

I don't see a dilemma.

If Mozilla were saying "Debian is a big player, so we're giving them an
exception", you'd have a point. But that's not what they're saying.

Instead, they're saying "we've observed Debian's past behaviour, and
consider that what they've been doing thus far is something we don't see
as violating our trademark". That isn't Debian-specific; as long as
other people could, in theory, get the same exception, we're good wrt
DFSG#8 -- even if nobody ends up trying to get that same exception. It
would still be the case if Mozilla were to reject the use of their
trademark by some other party, if that other party were to do something
really egregious.

Of course, this is a balancing act, and something we (Debian) should
carefully monitor. But as long as the above still holds, I don't see a
problem wrt DFSG#8.

-- 
< ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen
       people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules,
       and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too.
 -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12
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