[Pkg-mutt-maintainers] mutt-1.6.2, or neomutt?

[Christoph Berg]

Re: Kevin J. McCarthy 2016-08-04 <20160804035149.GC24261 at zaogao.lan>
> I could go on, but basically the attitude that upstream is hopeless,
> especially coming from Debian (which I've been a long-time user of, and
> have tried to engage with), is a slap in the face.  Particularly, at
> this point when I've been trying to do exactly what you are saying I
> need to do: release more often, be more responsive, and merge patches.

Hi Kevin,

I'm sorry that we acted awkwardly on this. The communication should
have been better.

Faidon summarized the technical aspects quite well, so I'm not going
to add more there, except acknowledging that your view on it is
correct as well.

On the social (or operational) level I'd like to say that from my view
the current situation should be seen as an intermediate step. Mutt
development had been stalled for almost 10 years, and Debian had
accumulated a gigantic number of patches. Then Neomutt came around,
offering a ready-made basis to build on, so we gladly accepted. Of
course the goal is to get all these integrated into Mutt, but at least
from my side, the old habit of not even trying to get things merged
into a stalled codebase had not died, even when you were working hard
to get Mutt forward in the past years. Sometimes the clocks inside
Debian tick very slowly. (This isn't meant to say this is good, it's
just an explanation.)

Now, I'd think, with more people on Mutt in Debian (I'm not even
including myself here, as I haven't done anything for quite a while),
and Neomutt actively maintaining patches on the "patch" side, and you
on the "Mutt" side, we should be able to tackle this stack of patches
one by one, getting them either merged or obsoleted, with the goal of
eventually reducing "Debian Mutt" back to "Mutt.org".

I think that's feasible, and Neomutt is merely a step on the way into
that direction.

Christoph
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