[pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#482628: Bug#482628: ntp: Incorrect web-site listed in package description

[Kurt Roeckx]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 08:32:49AM -0400, Steve Kostecke wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx said:
> 
> >On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:51:59PM -0400, Steve Kostecke wrote:
> >
> >> The http://ntp.isc.org/ web-site URL listed in the package
> >> description is incorrect. NTP is _not_ a product of Internet Systems
> >> Consortium (ISC).
> >
> >It used to be there. And as far as I know, it's still hosted by the SC.
> >
> >> The replacement URL is http://support.ntp.org/
> >
> >But the homepage changed to http://www.ntp.org/ like a year ago.
> 
> http://www.ntp.org/ is the URL for The NTP (R&D) Project. This is the
> project engaged in NTP Research and Development at the University of
> Delaware. http://www.ntp.org/ has been the URL for The NTP Project since
> 19970118 (check the whois record).
> 
> http://support.ntp.org/ is the URL for The NTP Public Services Project.
> This is the project which operates the public facing support services for
> The NTP (R&D) Project as well as providing additional developement
> support. The public facing support services provided by The NTP Public
> Services Project include, but are not limited to, ...
> 
> * NTP Bug Tracking System - http://bugs.ntp.org/
> * Community Supported Documentation Wiki - http://support.ntp.org/support
> * Mailing Lists - http://lists.ntp.org/
> * Public Time Server Lists - http://support.ntp.org/servers
> * Release engineering infrastructure and services
> 
> http://ntp.isc.org/ was the original URL for The NTP Public Services
> Project. This project was, and still is, operated on systems provided by
> ISC and other generous donors and bandwidth / rackspace provided by ISC.
> We stopped using the *.isc.org URLs several years ago because it was
> leading some people to believe that there was a "UDEL NTP" and an "ISC
> NTP". Using the ntp.isc.org URL in the Debian package description only
> serves to perpetuate a falsehood.
> 
> http://ntp.isc.org/* is now just a transparent redirect the equivalent
> URL at http://support.ntp.org/. We provide this service to avoid
> link-rot.

It seems that ntp.isc.org was changed to support.ntp.org around
august 2007:
https://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/announce/2007-August/000046.html

And it's that change I remember.

Anyway, I always found it a little weird that there are
2 things that really just look like one.

The ntp distribution itself is also still hosted by udel.edu as far as I
know.  When you follow the links on the support.ntp.org website it tells
you you're going to the R&D project.

The copyright file also mentions www.ntp.org.

It seems to me that upstream is the R&D project, and I would think
the homepage would than also be the R&D projects page.


Kurt