[Pkg-octave-devel] Ubuntu and Debian packaging

Thomas Weber tweber at debian.org
Sat Feb 12 20:19:23 UTC 2011

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:46:32AM -0600, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> 2011/2/12 Søren Hauberg <soren at hauberg.org>:
> > fre, 11 02 2011 kl. 07:59 -0600, skrev Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
> >> 2011/2/10 Thomas Weber <tweber at debian.org>:
> >>
> >> > Why does anybody think that I'm opposed to Ubuntu? I don't care, one
> >> > way or another.
> >>
> >> Well, you certainly aren't in favour of Ubuntu either, and your tone
> >> is very jaded.
> >
> > I think that is a very unfair comment. Thomas has said nothing that
> > called for this kind of comments.
> I'm sorry, I didn't mean that as a personal attack on Thomas. 

I didn't take it as a personal attack, so there's nothing to be sorry

> I was trying to see what was his angle for refusing me to forward
> Ubuntu bugs to the Debian Octave mailing lists. 

Jordi, we already struggle to keep up with the bugs in Debian. We have
several octave-forge packages that have newer versions released which we
haven't packaged yet. We suck at forwarding bugs appropriately or
following up on reported bugs. And it least I haven't sent a patch to
Octave for anything for at least a year.

Do you think this will get *better* with even more bug reports, coming
from packages compiled with different flags, maybe using a different
compiler and different libraries? How many chroots will I have to
install just to be able to get the bug reporter's environment?

> His stance seems to be based on past negative experiences with Ubuntu,
> whereas I've had positive experiences. 

> Since Thomas has done the vast majority of Debian packaging work over
> the past year, I have to defer to his meritocratic authority on the
> matter. I'm stubborn, though, so I was trying to appeal his decision.

Which decision? I don't want Ubuntu's bug report on pkg-octave-devel,
just as most members of octave-maintainers probably do not want to
receive every bug report from Debian's Octave-related packages (or
Fedora's or Suse's, ...). If you think they are helpful, just subscribe
to them privately. Of course, feel free to ask on pkg-octave-devel; if
there's some sort of majority, I won't stay in the way. However, I
reserve the right to filter those mails on my side -- I didn't sign
up for Ubuntu support (thanks Judd, for the expression). 


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