[Pkg-octave-devel] Bug#807784: Bug#807784: octave-optim suggests `lyx`

Hörmetjan Yiltiz hyiltiz at gmail.com
Mon Dec 14 02:38:22 UTC 2015


Great! Thanks! So lyx was supposed to be used for "reading" some
documentation? Well, I would not think that lyx can be assumed to be a tool
to do so. Octave users will use `help` and `info`, and when necessary, the
browser and PDF reader, but certainly not lyx. Thanks for the effort!

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 21:34 Rafael Laboissiere <rafael at laboissiere.net>
wrote:

> Control: severity -1 normal
>
> * Hormet Yiltiz <hyiltiz at gmail.com> [2015-12-12 19:29]:
>
> > Package: octave-optim
> > Version: 1.4.1-1+b1
> > Severity: serious
> > Justification: Policy 7.2
> >
> >   octave-optim suggests lyx, which is a office suite that makes working
> >   with LaTeX easy, and implements a way for reproducable research.
> >   However, `lyx` then depends on `texlive`, which is a heavy
> >   dependency. Octave-optim is a package of GNU Octave, which is used
> >   for scientific computation. octave-optim, being a package for a
> >   octave that does the computation, should NOT depend or suggest a 3rd
> >   party software that is not very related to its usage.
>
> I disagree with this interpretation.  Section 7.2 of the Policy manual
> does mandate that:
>
> "Depends […] The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package
> is required for the depending package to provide a significant amount of
> functionality. […]"
>
> However, there is no such requirement for the Suggests relationship:
>
> "Suggests: This is used to declare that one package may be more useful
> with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and
> the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps
> enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is
> perfectly reasonable."
>
> I am therefore downgrading the severity of this bug report to "normal"
> hereby.
>
> That said, I agree with the bug submitter that having to install lyx,
> which pulls the whole TeX distribution, is an overkill for just reading
> part of the documentation.  I am now working on a solution that will ship
> the *.pdf instead of the *.lyx, as it is currently the case.  This will
> eventually fix the bug reported here.
>
> Rafael
>
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