[Pkg-openmpi-maintainers] Bug#767411: torque: should not be released with jessie

M Milligan mmilligan at astro.umn.edu
Sun Nov 2 11:42:41 UTC 2014


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I tend to agree that we shouldn't propagate an ancient unsupported 
branch
of torque into Jesse. Also, I really wish we were having this discussion 
a few
months ago, not the day(!) before freeze starts.

But, I *strongly* disagree that we should just accept the premise that 
we
can't ship a newer Torque. A quick search turns up several instances of 
people
from Adaptive Computing asserting that they want Torque to be free 
software,
or at very least freely redistributable. In particular, the final 
message on #641484
is from a Ken Nielson at Adaptive asking "Please let me know how we can 
help
you in understanding that this license is open or show us what we need 
to
change in order to make it clear that it is open." No reply to that 
query is recorded
in the tracker. Whether or not there is time to resolve this for Jesse, 
I think we
owe it to our users to finish that conversation.

That said, I don't see much point in just keeping the libtorque bit if 
we're dropping
the rest of Torque.

Regards,
Michael

On 2014-11-01 14:50, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 02:30:02PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
>> > Given Dominique's reply on #767411, from my POV I think the best
>> > solution would be to remove torque completely for jessie (i.e. first
>> > drop support from openmpi to be able to remove the package and
>> > remaining reverse dependencies).
>> 
>> 4 wheezy DSAs doesn't necessarily sound that horrible, so I don't
>> think we're clearly at the point where torque should be considered
>> unsupportable.  Maybe the patch backports were an incredible amount of
>> work?
> 
> Well, but the 2.4 branch is already no longer unsupported upstream
> and we shouldn't knowingly introduce it into a release which will be
> supported for five more years.
> 
>> The package does clearly need to be orphaned, so someone can step up
>> post-jessie to get the package in sync with upstream.
> 
> As written by Dominique that's no possible for license reasons.
> 
> Cheers,
>         Moritz
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