[Pkg-pagekite-devel] PageKite and Debian (forked from FreedomBox thead)

Mon Feb 7 22:13:01 UTC 2011

Progress has been made!

   * https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-pagekite/ - the project page
   * http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-pagekite-devel -
the mailing list

Also:

   * https://alioth.debian.org/projects/collab-maint/

Hrafnkell: in order to apply form membership of pkg-pagekite and
collab-maint, as recommended by Jonas, you'll need to create an account and
look for an "Request to join" link at the bottom of the sidebar on the
project-page for each group. It's a long scroll for collab-maint. :-)

I am CC-ing the mailing list on this, so the quoted chit chat now becomes
public record.

2011/1/30 Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk>

> Hi Bjarni and, assumably, Hrafnkell,
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:31:36PM +0000, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote:
>
>> Have you had a chance to take a look at any of our work yet? Just
>> wondering if there is anything else we can do to make progress with this,
>> now that the bug report has been filed and sitting there for a little while.
>>
>> Also, I was wondering if you were planning to be at FOSDEM next weekend?
>> I'll be there, if you're around it might be nice to meet in person. :-)
>>
>
> Sorry for my silence.  Things have just piled up around me lately - a whole
> slew of interesting projects I let myself get involved in, including yours!
> :-D
>
> No, only now that you poke me again (and thanks for that, it helps!) did I
> have a look at the KiteNet concept on your website.  And skimmed a bit of
> the surrounding as well (great gimmick Már did with his blog photo!).
>
> Not sure if you already told about your skills in packaging.  But I am
> pretty sure I already warned you that I am stubborn about packaging style
> (but quite happy to let others in on it): CDBS and git-buildpackage!
>
> You are upstream for this code, I believe. It might be tempting to then
> release your code directly packaged for Debian, but I strongly recommend
> against that: Instead, I believe best is to keep upstream work and Debian
> packaging strictly separate even if both works share collaborators: You
> release your upstream code as sensibly versioned tarballs, and then we grab
> those tarballs as a packaging team, add a debian subdir, and release it for
> Debian.
>
> You already filed an ITP bugreport for it.  Great!
>
> Next is to create a space for us to work.  Here I prefer that we make it as
> easy as possible for any Debian Developer to casually contribute to our
> packaging efforts. It might never happen that anyone but us few team members
> actually do contribute directly to our packaging git, but since git is a
> _distributed_ VCS, there is little possibility that anyone can interrupt our
> work by wrong/garbled/bogus commits.  So I propose that our canonical git is
> stored in the collab-maint area at Debian Alioth.  This does mean that any
> non-DD (like you, I guess) need to jump through one additional hoop compared
> to using another hosting - but as argued above I find that this is a
> reasonable price to pay for making it easier to gain contributions from DDs.
>  Here's the logic:
>
> 1) Each of you create an account at https://alioth.debian.org/
> 2) One of you request a project for Debian packaging of KiteNet -
>   e.g. pkg-kitenet. Also request a mailinglist "pkg-kitenet-devel",
>   but no other services than that (not even VCS!).
> 3) All of us join that new pkg-kitenet group
> 4) Each of you request membership of collab-maint, mentioning as
>  argument in the request that you need it as code contributing    member of
> the pkg-kitenet team
>
> We could avoid step 4 (and the annoyance of any new non-DD member of our
> team needing to similarly request membership twice.  The benefit of this is
> that _all_ DDs by have write-access to collab-maint area, and I find it
> beneficial to us making it easiest possible for DDs to contribute.
>
> When that's setup we can start packaging.  Well, we could do that already,
> but I really do want us to discuss transparently so want to move to a list
> as soon as possible and continue from there :-)
>
>
> All ok?
>
>
> - Jonas
>
> --
>  * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt
>  * Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: http://dr.jones.dk/
>
>  [x] quote me freely  [ ] ask before reusing  [ ] keep private
>
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-- 
Bjarni R. Einarsson
The Beanstalks Project ehf.

Making personal web-pages fly: http://pagekite.net/
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