[php-maint] [Pkg-php-commits] r950 - php5/trunk/debian

Raphael Geissert atomo64+debian at gmail.com
Wed Jan 9 00:37:36 UTC 2008

Hello Steve,

On 07/01/2008, Steve Langasek <vorlon at debian.org> wrote:
> Hmm, I'm not particularly happy with this, for several reasons.  First, we
> don't recommend any other extension packages, and there are probably several
> of them that are of broader interest than this one.

But most of the others are more popular hence the reason why I decided
to go the Suggests way.

> Second, this means
> we're duplicating functionality between the php-timezonedb package and the
> SAPI packages, and I don't like that kind of duplication.

What kind of duplication?
php-timezonedb is only an extension which uses updated time zone data,
this being very helpful so there's no need to patch the php5 sources
on each and every Olson database update and uploading the new package.

>  Third, the use of
> an internal TZ database in PHP is *itself* duplication; we should only need
> one copy of the TZ data in Debian, in the tzdata package, and everything
> else should be able to use that at runtime, instead of having a separate
> copy to update for each language and database engine.

I know, but I don't think it is as simple as it sounds, otherwise
somebody would have already done it long time ago.

> I think I would prefer to either see this made a hard dependency of the SAPI
> packages and just scrap the built-in data completely

It would be useless to 'scrap the built-in data' if it is made a hard
dependency because it doesn't affect us at all when maintaining the
package, does it?.

> , or (best) get the
> whole timezonedb code scrapped in favor of getting things to work with the
> stock glibc functions.

Just requested: http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=12861

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