Bug#289115: marked as forwarded (vimtutor: german text doesn't display important part on first page)

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has caused the Debian Bug report #289115,
regarding vimtutor: german text doesn't display important part on first page
to be marked as having been forwarded to the upstream software
author(s) Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net>.

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From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@bononia.it>
To: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net>
Cc: 289115-forwarded@bugs.debian.org,
	Gerfried Fuchs <alfie@debian.org>
Subject: shorten vimtutor german text
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[ repost, -forwarded address was wrong, sorry ]

Hi Bram,
  following you'll find some proposal on how to shorten the pages of the
vimtutor so that relevant information (as how to proceed in the tutor
using 'j'!) are displayed earlier.

Original submitter Cc-ed.

Cheers.

> Package: vim
> Version: 1:6.3-013+2
> Severity: normal
> Tags: l10n
>=20
>         Hi!
>=20
>  I just noticed that the most important information in the vimtutor fil=
e
> isn't covered on the first page in the german translation -- that is,
> how to proceed with the vimtutor:
>=20
> #v+
> ....
>=20
>    Jetzt stelle sicher, dass Deine Umstelltaste NICHT gedr=FCckt ist, u=
nd
> "/tmp/tutorfo1shs" 849 Zeilen, 31567 Zeichen
> #v-
>=20
>  This is IMHO a serious problem, because people don't know what to do
> which is hidden on the next two lines:
>=20
> #v+
>    bet=E4tige die   j   Taste gen=FCgend Male, um den Cursor nach unten
>    zu bewegen, so dass Lektion 1.1 den Bildschirm vollkommen ausf=FCllt=
=2E
> #v-
>=20
>  Also Lektion 1.1 doesn't fully fit on one page. I would suggest to try
> to shorten the text, at least do the following:
>=20
> #v+
>     Vim ist ein sehr m=E4chtiger Editor, der viele Befehle bereitstellt=
;
> -   zu viele, um alle in einem Tutor wie diesem zu erkl=E4ren.
> -   Dieser Tutor ist so gestaltet, um genug Befehle vorzustellen, so da=
ss Du
> -   die F=E4higkeit erlangst, Vim mit Leichtigkeit als einen Allzweck-E=
ditor
> -   zu benutzen.
> +   zu viele, um alle in einem Tutor wie diesem zu erkl=E4ren. Dieser T=
utor ist
> +   so gestaltet, um genug Befehle vorzustellen, so dass Du die F=E4hig=
keit
> +   erlangst, Vim mit Leichtigkeit als einen Allzweck-Editor zu benutze=
n.
> #v-
>=20
>  I don't see the need for the linebreak after the fullstop, it isn't in
> the english part, and it shortens the paragraph by one line making at
> least the line with the "j" appear, as a quickfix. I think it it would
> be worthwhile to go through the whole text with looking at that in a
> standard sized terminal (80x24).

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