[pkg-wine-party] Bug#585409: Bug#585409: Too ambitious!

Michael Gilbert mgilbert at debian.org
Mon Apr 9 19:53:03 UTC 2012

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ove Kåven wrote:
>> On 03/28/2012 04:49 PM, Ivan Baldo wrote:
>>> Hello Ove!
>>> I appreciate your work and time, what follows is just a constructive
>>> opinion for your consideration.
>>> Many of the things you mention are really upstream bugs and considering
>>> your limited time it would be best just to delegate that work to
>>> upstream (coinstallability, multiarch, etc.).
>> Hardly. Such things are packaging issues, not upstream issues. In the case
>> of multiarch, anything they might possibly do would probably actually be in
>> direct conflict with the way things are supposed to work, and thus just
>> compound the packager's headaches, not alleviate them. For most packages
>> (including Wine), multiarchification involves intentionally overriding
>> upstream's build system defaults in ways only the distribution-specific
>> packaging system really needs to know. Upstream's job is only to allow this
>> kind of override, nothing more; doing the actual override is the packager's
>> job. Wine's upstream has already done what they need to do.
>>> Instead of aiming for perfection and missing Wine 1.4 in Wheeze
>> Pff. What's left to do in that plan should probably take a skilled and
>> motivated volunteer about a week or so of work. Packaging Wine 1.4
>> afterwards, maybe another week. For various practical reasons (including
>> this not being anyone's day job), you'd probably have to multiply this with
>> some fairly significant number to get the real time it'll take, but even
>> then, it'd still leave a comfortable amount of time left until Wheezy.
> Hi,
> I've prepared a package for 1.1.37 (http://people.debian.org/~mgilbert).
>  This doesn't yet make progress towards Ove's goals, but it does at least
> move us forward.  If Ove were willing to grant commit access to the pkg-wine
> git repository and uploader status, I could keep doing this over the next
> couple days for the subsequent 1.1.x releases to at least get us to the
> stable 1.2 series.
> Once we're at 1.2 we will at least have a better/newer base for the wheezy
> release.  At that point, I will start looking at some the wine/wine-unstable
> co-installibility and 32/64-bit multiarch goals.
> On the wine/wine-unstable co-installibility, I wonder if that would
> necessarily be urgent now since for the wheezy release (at least), the vast
> majority of users really only want/need one of wine's stable versions there,
> and the 1.5.x series isn't very far ahead of the 1.4.x one anyway.
> I have the 1.1.37 changes staged in my own git repository.  Attached is a
> 'git log -p' for my changes for your review.

1.1.38 is now up at http://people.debian.org/~mgilbert.

Best wishes,

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