[pkg-wine-party] A more basic wine-unstable package for Testing?

Austin English austinenglish at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 17:22:40 UTC 2014


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:00 AM, David Smith <sidicas2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The problem that I keep having over and over with wine on Debian is that
> new games come out for Windows and within 3 weeks to a month the wine
> devs have got it running on the latest bleeding edge versions of wine.
>
> Those bleeding edge versions of wine eventually make their way into the
> wine-unstable package.  But the wine-unstable package targets Debian
> unstable only.   So I don't actually get the chance to play it until a
> solid year or two later.
>
> Now I do all my linux gaming on Debian stable and that works just great.
> So it seems silly to me that I would have to upgrade my entire OS just
> to run an unstable version of wine which provides the option to run a
> handful of bleeding edge games.
>
> At first I started working on backporting the wine-unstable package to
> Wheezy just to see if it was possible.  But then I ran into the problem
> of needing to backport a bunch of other packages (SANE lib, libgphoto2,
> OpenCL, LDAP, CAPI, CUPS, etc.).. Which really aren't needed for gaming.
>

While wine does need these dependencies, it intentionally does not use
bleeding edge features from those projects. It should work with version of
those packages in stable (untested).


> So then I figured maybe it would be better to try to create a new wine
> package that was more minimal but newer.   I just called it
> "wine-gaming".  I started working on that but then I realized somebody
> had already done this for Debian Stable and had a package they were
> posting on the Internet that installed wine 1.7.17 to /opt on a Debian
> Stable system.  I'll refrain from posting the link because I'm not sure
> that website is particularly credible but it can be found with a google
> search.
>
> But really, it seems like a good idea to me.  I don't run wine very
> often and I only use it for gaming.  Would it not make sense to have a
> wine-gaming package that was basically wine-unstable but with less
> build-deps to make it easier to backport and targeted at Debian Testing
> & Debian backports?
>

I don't think so.


> But then I guess it would eventually end up in Debian Stable and of
> course any bleeding edge version of wine probably doesn't belong
> there... But it would sure be nice if I get an unstable version of wine
> that was packaged for Debian Stable.  You know what I mean?
>
> Unless I'm missing something, the only way to get wine-unstable on your
> system is to run Debian unstable.  I'd think most gamers would prefer as
> stable of a system as possible so on the one hand they want to avoid
> debian unstable, but when it comes to wine they really have no choice
> but to run the wine-unstable version.
>
> In a way it feels like no matter what they do there just isn't a good
> solution for these users.
>
> I guess you could say the best solution is to just use 3rd party repos.
> Maybe that is true, but I'm not sure if I want to put a lot of trust in
> 3rd party repos and was wondering if anybody had any better ideas?
>
> -David
>
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-Austin
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