[pkg-wine-party] A more basic wine-unstable package for Testing?

Austin English austinenglish at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 17:22:40 UTC 2014

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:00 AM, David Smith <sidicas2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The problem that I keep having over and over with wine on Debian is that
> new games come out for Windows and within 3 weeks to a month the wine
> devs have got it running on the latest bleeding edge versions of wine.
> Those bleeding edge versions of wine eventually make their way into the
> wine-unstable package.  But the wine-unstable package targets Debian
> unstable only.   So I don't actually get the chance to play it until a
> solid year or two later.
> Now I do all my linux gaming on Debian stable and that works just great.
> So it seems silly to me that I would have to upgrade my entire OS just
> to run an unstable version of wine which provides the option to run a
> handful of bleeding edge games.
> At first I started working on backporting the wine-unstable package to
> Wheezy just to see if it was possible.  But then I ran into the problem
> of needing to backport a bunch of other packages (SANE lib, libgphoto2,
> OpenCL, LDAP, CAPI, CUPS, etc.).. Which really aren't needed for gaming.

While wine does need these dependencies, it intentionally does not use
bleeding edge features from those projects. It should work with version of
those packages in stable (untested).

> So then I figured maybe it would be better to try to create a new wine
> package that was more minimal but newer.   I just called it
> "wine-gaming".  I started working on that but then I realized somebody
> had already done this for Debian Stable and had a package they were
> posting on the Internet that installed wine 1.7.17 to /opt on a Debian
> Stable system.  I'll refrain from posting the link because I'm not sure
> that website is particularly credible but it can be found with a google
> search.
> But really, it seems like a good idea to me.  I don't run wine very
> often and I only use it for gaming.  Would it not make sense to have a
> wine-gaming package that was basically wine-unstable but with less
> build-deps to make it easier to backport and targeted at Debian Testing
> & Debian backports?

I don't think so.

> But then I guess it would eventually end up in Debian Stable and of
> course any bleeding edge version of wine probably doesn't belong
> there... But it would sure be nice if I get an unstable version of wine
> that was packaged for Debian Stable.  You know what I mean?
> Unless I'm missing something, the only way to get wine-unstable on your
> system is to run Debian unstable.  I'd think most gamers would prefer as
> stable of a system as possible so on the one hand they want to avoid
> debian unstable, but when it comes to wine they really have no choice
> but to run the wine-unstable version.
> In a way it feels like no matter what they do there just isn't a good
> solution for these users.
> I guess you could say the best solution is to just use 3rd party repos.
> Maybe that is true, but I'm not sure if I want to put a lot of trust in
> 3rd party repos and was wondering if anybody had any better ideas?
> -David
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